1
\$\begingroup\$

I've noticed that with some older cameras you only have half-stop increments to ISO, f-stop and shutter speed. Look at Wikipedia on f-stops, I see they have the full-stop, half-stop and third-stop system we see today. Similarly with the film speed I see that the majority of the film produced is in the full-stop range. I don't remember seeing ISO 160 film back in the day.

Since you only have full-stop increments, how does one properly exposure when they slightly under or over by one or two-thirds of a stop? Did they just ND filters to compensate or does film have more lateral room to work with? Or was the resolving power of film so long that it didn't matter?

Related

\$\endgroup\$
5
  • \$\begingroup\$ That D610 might have been set to half stop exposure settings, it has the option to. I'm fairly sure that 1/3 stop is the default. \$\endgroup\$
    – K. Minkov
    Commented Sep 30, 2016 at 11:33
  • \$\begingroup\$ Nothing requires that sort of precision. \$\endgroup\$ Commented Sep 30, 2016 at 11:39
  • 2
    \$\begingroup\$ So... the D610 is so old that it's a camera from "back in the day"? \$\endgroup\$ Commented Sep 30, 2016 at 12:32
  • \$\begingroup\$ @DanWolfgangA D610 is a camera I found with half-stop settings or so it was set to that. \$\endgroup\$ Commented Sep 30, 2016 at 17:53
  • \$\begingroup\$ If you are not the author of a photo or comparing two exact same images, a diference of 1/2 stop is hardly noticable. \$\endgroup\$
    – Rafael
    Commented Sep 30, 2016 at 18:21

2 Answers 2

6
\$\begingroup\$

With full-stop intervals one can always expose within one-half stop accuracy. If you are over by 2/3-stop then you are only under the next brightest stop by 1/3-stop. Today, with 1/3-stop intervals one can expose to within 1/6-stop of any particular target EV.

Any finer gradations were taken care of in the darkroom, either by modifying the development time slightly, by modifying the printing time slightly, or both.

Keep in mind that most critical work done in the days when most cameras only had full-stop adjustments was done with sheet film, not roll film. Sheet film has one image per negative. A photographer could make notes when metering and exposing the shot and then customize development times for each individual negative back in the darkroom. The advent and increasing popularity of roll film, with which the entire roll is developed at once, is one of the driving factors that lead to cameras with finer exposure adjustments.

And by the way, Kodak offered their very popular Portra Professional grade film in ASA 160 speed and a variety of size formats, including the medium format 120 size. They also offered Vericolor and other films in 160 speed. Fuji and other producers also made films in 160 speed.
Portra 160 in 120 formatenter image description here

\$\endgroup\$
5
  • 1
    \$\begingroup\$ May be worth mentioning that pushing or pulling (ie. shooting under- or overexposed) was even intentionally used to control contrast. \$\endgroup\$
    – ths
    Commented Sep 30, 2016 at 10:05
  • \$\begingroup\$ It's alluded to in the answer but not directly addressed because that's not what the question is concerned about. It's well covered at photo.stackexchange.com/questions/38689/… \$\endgroup\$
    – Michael C
    Commented Sep 30, 2016 at 11:07
  • 1
    \$\begingroup\$ News photographers would write "PUSH ONE STOP" or "PUSH TWO STOPS" on their film container when they had photos that they expected were underexposed, and the film developer would "push" by using a longer time in the chemical bath, using a warmer bath, or both \$\endgroup\$ Commented Sep 30, 2016 at 15:53
  • 1
    \$\begingroup\$ The question here is, "How did photographers get the exposure right back in the day with only full-stop increments?" It is not, "How did photographers compensate when they got the exposure wrong (whether intentionally or not) by more than a stop back in the day with only full-stop increments? \$\endgroup\$
    – Michael C
    Commented Sep 30, 2016 at 17:32
  • 1
    \$\begingroup\$ It's about how finely one can zero in on nominal exposure values when the smallest increment is one stop. It isn't about all of those other things. We have plenty of other questions and answers that cover them. \$\endgroup\$
    – Michael C
    Commented Sep 30, 2016 at 17:34
0
\$\begingroup\$

The camera and camera lens systems evolved with photographic plates and film. The f/stop system, is based on a doubling or halving of the exposing light. The goal of the film and equipment maker is to allow the user to make a faithful image. Photo materials do deliver a faithful image when they are properly exposed however it is rarely necessary to hit the exposure spot on. Film makers strive to make film according to a recipe that delivers the published sensitivity (ISO) but manufacturing disparities are always present thus the goal is to deliver a film that is + or – 1/6 f/stop. Often the real target will be 1/3 f/stop.

The lens maker builds an iris diaphragm adjuster into the lens barrel. You set the f/number via a mechanical linkage that adjusts the working diameter of the aperture. This is a gear linkage with backlash; the likely precision is about 1/3 of an f/stop. Suppose a 50mm prime is set to f/11, the working diameter will be 4.5mm. Now stop down 1/3 f/stop to f/13, the working diameter is 3.8mm. A exact and repeatable change with an accuracy of 1/3 of an f/stop is a mechanical nightmare.

Same with the shutter speeds, these are stopwatch type escape mechanisms. The between the lens shutter must open, stop, then close. The efficiently is not quire 1/3 f/stop. The focal plane can be highly efficient; it is only required to make a smooth pass over the focal plane. The accuracy of the slit width is better than 1/6 f/stop.

Film developing is a chemical process effected by time, temperature and chemical strength. The best a precise laboratory can maintain is 1/6 f/stops.

We add all these variables together and the likelihood of an accurate exposure + or – 1/stop is not good. Fortunately all films have latitude. The beauty of the positive / negative system is: exposure errors made in the camera and via film processing can be offset by adjusting the print exposure an or the type of paper and its processing. Bottom line, it was not necessary to make the exposure spot on. The slide film had less latitude. Later models of lenses and cameras attempted to provide ½ and 1/3 stop adjustments.

I managed a plant facility for many years that made test films, both negative and slides and prints. These were that were used to calibrate high-speed photofinishing printers and film processors. Our goal was 1/6 f/stop or better, it was daunting.

\$\endgroup\$

Your Answer

By clicking “Post Your Answer”, you agree to our terms of service and acknowledge you have read our privacy policy.

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged or ask your own question.