I have a Canon XL1 interchangeable lens video camera. Can I use an adaptor to use its lenses with a DSLR or an SLR? I know about it using a smaller sensor and that it is closer to the sensor (as in Is the Canon XL1 lens (1999) compatible with any of the new prosumer 1080 HD Canon bodies?) but maybe there is an adaptor that gives it some space. I wouldn't mind if the picture is cropped. It's just so hard to sell this for nothing. The optics and glass used in this lens are top end.
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\$\begingroup\$ possible duplicate of Is the Canon XL1 lens (1999) compatible with any of the new prosumer 1080 HD Canon bodies? \$\endgroup\$– 404 User not foundCommented Nov 1, 2014 at 13:28
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\$\begingroup\$ Previous question asks if the lens is compatible; this one knows that it isn't but asks if there is a way in which it might be adapted. \$\endgroup\$– mattdmCommented Nov 1, 2014 at 13:50
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1\$\begingroup\$ Would mounting on a mirrorless camera (perhaps one with a small sensor) be acceptable, or are you specifically looking to mount it on a DSLR? \$\endgroup\$– mattdmCommented Nov 1, 2014 at 14:40
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As noted, the flange distance is 29mm for the XL1. Going from the table in Flange focal distance, the only cameras that have a shorter flange focal distance are mirrorless systems such as the Micro 4/3, Leica M mount rangefinders and the like.
Assuming that one could craft a zero width adapter for it and put it on a DSLR, it would not be able to focus at infinity. At all. In order to focus at infinity, you would need something like the adapter for Canon FD lenses to EOS (B&H). Note that there is a single or double element lens in there and it acts as a 1.25x teleconverter and costs a stop of light too. The hypothetical XL1 to ? adapter would be even more significant in its teleconverter nature and cost in light.
The small group of lens elements also means that you will be getting additional aberrations added into the lens system. There would likely be an increase in purple fringing and the like from the lens system that includes this adapter.
However, that isn't the biggest problem. This lens is a by the wire lens for controlling the aperture. There appears to be some interchangeability with the XL1 and XL2 and the EOS line of lenses (Canon EF Adapter for XL1 and XL2 Camcorders) for EF lens on XL1, though I am unsure if there is additional circuitry in the adapter.
Without the ability to control the lens by the wire, you will be unable to change the aperture on the lens (most adapters are for manual focus lenses on a modern body, or within the system - Canon EOS to XL or Nikon F to 1). This means the only hypothetical body that you could put it on, if you can figure out the proper circuitry to handle the single from body to the lens would be Canon.
While vignetting wasn't deemed an issue for the image produced, it is still an issue for the camera in that it means the light meter and autofocus sensors will not be working optimally, or may be trying to take into account part of the image that is outside of what would have been the usable image circle on the XL1. This also becomes an issue for you because the viewfinder will be difficult to use (mostly black with a small circular image in the center).
To get an idea of what this means, a 1/3" sensor is 4.8mm x 3.6mm across, a diagonal of 8.467mm. The diameter is 1/4th the width of a full frame camera. Think of it this way:
If that was your viewfinder, the image that you would get would be smaller than the circle.
With all of these factors conspiring against you:
- Signficant flange distance difference
- Optics to focus at infinity
- Electronics to translate EOS camera to lens signal to XL camera to lens signal
- Vignetting for the viewfinder
you will find that if it is possible, it is not at all practical to do so.
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2\$\begingroup\$ The Canon EOS-M system that uses the EF-M mount has a registration distance of 18mm, which would leave 11mm thickness to make an XL1 to EF-M adapter. Since the EOS-M can be easily adapted to use EF lenses, one would assume it would also be fairly easy for an EOS-M camera to control the aperture of the XL1 lens. Of course the APS-C sized sensor of an EOS-M would still be significantly larger than the image circle projected by the XL1 lens. \$\endgroup\$ Commented May 16, 2017 at 22:39
Not unless you only want to use it at close distances only. The flange distance is 29mm for the XL1 and 44mm for the EF mount, a 15mm difference. The maximum focal length of the XL1 is 88mm, so the lowest magnification ratio that you could shoot at is 15/88 = 0.17x. And that assumes an adapter of 0 length. So not only would you lose infinity focus, you wouldn't even be able to focus at moderate distances.