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I just bought an X-T20 and I was surprised to see that the SS/A/ISO values at the bottom of the liveview/viewfinder did not update in real time. They only refresh when I half-way press the shutter button (exposure metering/AE-L I suppose). My Olympus OMD10 II updates them in real time without having me telling him what to do.

Is there any way to achieve something similar on the X-T20 ?

  • which firmware do you using? – Simon Schnell Sep 18 '17 at 22:02
  • @SimonSchnell Last one, v1.02. It seems there's nothing in the changelogs related to my issue though. – LMeyer Sep 19 '17 at 7:58
  • @LMeyer What exposure mode and metering mode are you using with the Fuji X-T20? With the OM-D E-M10 Mark II? – Michael C Sep 19 '17 at 21:31
  • Did not try the X-T20 yet but this drives me crazy on Fuji cameras while reviewing them and making it difficult to get exactly the same exposure! – Itai Sep 20 '17 at 1:11
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You have DYNAMIC RANGE set to AUTO in the Shooting menu (in the Image Quality section). Turn that to 100%, 200%, or 400% and you'll get the constantly-updating exposure parameters you want. From the manual:

If AUTO is selected, the camera will automatically choose either 100% or 200% according to the subject and shooting conditions. Shutter speed and aperture will be displayed when the shutter button is pressed halfway.

DR settings above 100% cause the camera to actually use a lower exposure and then "push" when processing into a JPEG, possibly resulting in more noise in the shadows but better protecting highlights. When on AUTO, the camera analyzes the contrast in the scene and then decides what to do. Since the actual exposure is different when using 100%, 200%, or 400%, the exposure parameters might change. Assuming the DR analysis is a bit too heavyweight to do in constant real time, this all makes perfect sense.

If you have this setting to any fixed value, you'll get real-time display of the aperture and shutter speed. Oddly, automatic ISO is only locked in at exposure lock, for some reason.

(Thanks to Greybeard Photography on the Fuji X-Forum for steering me right on this — once I knew what to look for, it was easy to find the above in the manual.)

  • I'll accept this as I feel this more directly answer the question – LMeyer Sep 22 '17 at 22:51
  • @LMeyer I found the actual answer! – mattdm Sep 23 '17 at 17:18
  • Actually I already had DR on 100. The guy who last answered on the Fuji forum is right. The thing that prevented me to have real time updates was that I had auto ISO enabled as well ! Basically if you have either auto ISO or auto DR turned on, it won't work... Too bad I'm 99% of the time in auto ISO. – LMeyer Sep 24 '17 at 10:45
  • Huh let me check that on my cameras. – mattdm Sep 24 '17 at 13:04
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What is displayed at the bottom (or side, or spread between both the bottom and side for some cameras) of the viewfinder or Live View screen is usually determined by when the camera sets the exposure settings for a photo.

In automatic and semi-automatic exposure modes some cameras lock exposure as soon as metering is initially completed. In such a case the meter goes inactive after exposure has been set. Others wait until the instant the shutter button is fully pressed. Many cameras will do either one depending on what settings are selected at the time. Canon cameras, for instance, tend to lock exposure when metering is completed at the half-press of the shutter button when in the Evaluative metering mode but will continue to meter and modify the exposure settings right up until the time the shutter button is fully pressed in the other metering modes (Spot, Partial, Center-weighted Averaging, etc.) unless the Auto Exposure Lock (AE-L) button is pressed. Your Fuji X-T20 appears to do the same thing in Multi metering mode.

Most cameras display the current exposure settings, including exposure compensation via the +/- scale, when in an automatic or semi-automatic exposure mode. They will often display a +/- meter reading only when in Manual exposure mode. There are a few higher end cameras that have separate scales for exposure compensation, metering, and even flash metering or flash exposure compensation that can all be viewed simultaneously.

When exposure is locked in and the meter is inactive, the only way to update it is to reinitiate metering again. This can be done via another half-press of the shutter button, or by re-pressing an exposure lock button on cameras so equipped. When exposure is not locked then as long as metering is active the exposure settings and the display of them in the viewfinder will be updated.

In the case of your Olympus OM-D E-M10 Mark II, it seems that exposure is locked when the shutter button is half pressed (see page 53 of the E-M10 Mark II Instruction Manual) but apparently becomes active again when the half-press is released (per the statement in the question). Either that or you are shooting in Manual exposure mode with the Olympus.

Your Fuji X-T20 has a menu option called Shutter AE [Menu → Setup (wrench) → Button/Dial setting → Shutter AE] that allows you to select whether or not exposure is locked while the shutter button is half pressed (Please see page 227 of the X-T20 Owner's Manual). Setting it to Off should allow metering to remain active with the shutter button half-pressed. Page 154 of the Owner's Manual seems to indicate that using Multi metering mode will also lock the exposure settings as soon as the shutter button is half pressed. There are no indications at either location in the manual as to how the selected metering mode and Shutter AE settings may affect each other. If Shutter AE is set to 'Off' it may override the lock in Multi metering mode. Metering mode selections are only active when [AF/MF Setting → Face Eye Detection Setting] is set to Off. There's also no indication of how the various automatic exposure modes, such as the Scene modes, affect the settings mentioned above. Most cameras typically override all such settings in fully auto shooting modes.

Also note that the AF-L and AE-L buttons can be set to either lock AF or AE only while they are pressed or to lock AF or AE when they are pressed once and maintain that lock until they are pressed again (Please see pages 93 and 229 of the Manual).

  • Thanks for the comprehensive answer. Metering is indeed active when I turn off Shutter AE but it does not show the exposure settings in real time when half-pressing the shutter. Actually, when in aperture priority mode for example, the only way to just see the shutter speed/ISO values is to lock the exposure. Otherwise it just doesn't show. About Multi metering mode, I don't see where the manual suggests that it locks exposure when the shutter is pressed (I also tried). Anyway,I think I'm out of luck since the only way to do what I want is to shoot fully automatic apparently. – LMeyer Sep 20 '17 at 19:59
  • Under the description of "Multi" metering mode on page 154 it says, "The camera instantly determines exposure based on an analysis of ..." – Michael C Sep 20 '17 at 22:32
  • I kinda see where you're coming from but instantly doesn't mean lock here. I can confirm that from testing. I'll wait a bit and accept your answer by the way, I think this is as good as it's gonna get. – LMeyer Sep 21 '17 at 6:47

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