What's the difference between Kodak Tri-X 400 and Kodak Tri-X 400 Pan?

I can't seem to find the difference anywhere, are they simply the same just re-branded?

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There is none, except the labelling. "Pan" is short for "panchromatic" which means that it can record visible light all the way from blue down to red. Amazing, isn't it? These days, it's the films that don't record the whole visible spectrum that get the special labels, like "ortho" (for "othochromatic" -- they don't record orangey yellows or reds, and can be worked with safely under fairly bright red darkroom lighting). There was even a time when ortho film was special new technology -- the earliest films only recorded blue light, which is why mid-nineteenth century landscapes have white skies.

I would expect that Pan X (or Panchromatic X), if it is still available, would still have "pan" in the name, since X isn't a recognizable brand name.

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    thank you for the detailed description, after 5 years of digital photography I decided to start exploring film and I'm loving it!
    – Serge
    Feb 22 '11 at 19:41
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    More power to you, try large format next! :)
    – Shizam
    Feb 22 '11 at 20:17
  • Point of information. All photographic silver halide emulsions (colloidal suspensions) are ortho chromatic upon manufacture automatically and preceded panchromatic sensitized materials. Before orthochromatic silver halide film, there was no silver halide film at all. Other materials were used such as gum-bichromate, platinotypes, Kallitypes, cyanotype, ferric (iron) salts, etc. Orthochromatic means blue sensitive.
    – Stan
    Aug 4 '19 at 19:02

The first hit I get on google for Tri-X 400 Pan tells me:

KODAK TRI-X Pan Film has been replaced by KODAK PROFESSIONAL TRI-X 400 Film / 400TX.

The second hit is about Pro Tri-X 400, and that says:

Compared to KODAK TRI-X Pan and KODAK TRI-X Pan Professional Film, the newer TRI-X 400 and 320 Films may have a slightly different retouching “feel”.

At a quick glance, I notice that the timings in development charts are slightly different. So, it is a slightly different film.

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    ha should have opened my eyes... guess I was too busy looking at different rolls on online stores. Thanks
    – Serge
    Feb 22 '11 at 19:44
  • Hmmm... I always used TX in the bad old days. There was no sense buying anything that didn't come in bricks or propacks (and I don't think they offered anything else in 4x5 at the time in any case). As for the "feel" thing, I never had the patience to use pencils on 35mm negs -- a fellow could go blind!
    – user2719
    Feb 22 '11 at 19:47
  • Slightly different retouching feel refers to the texture of the base where hand (surface treatments) retouching is typically done. In addition to "pencils" we'd also scrape to remove.
    – Stan
    Aug 4 '19 at 18:49

320 Tri X has always been designed for flatter, longer exposure curves and is more sensitive to flare; therefore used for studio, interiors and night time city scapes. It is generally not 'pushed' as is 400TX or TX400. Rather than a 'S' curve, with most developers it exhibits a long flat rise after an initial 'bump'. (I suggest you look at the Kodak professional site, look up Tri-X and see the different fim/developer curves yourself.) Actually, this is rather silly asking here, when Kodak maintains a site, real people you can ask development questions to, and descriptions as to which sides of which film sizes you can reliably dye and retouch. 35mm and 120 size 320TX have been discontinued about 2005; suggest exposure of old stock at 160; 4x5 50 sheets still manufactured and very nice.

  • You are talking about 320 Tri X, but the question only mentions Tri-X PAN 400 and Tri-X 400. Your message does not answer the question.
    – Dragos
    Jan 2 '16 at 13:20

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