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I was gifted some vintage gear. I'm estimating the Vivitar lens in question is from the mid-80's; I believe my relative bought it to supplement an Olympus OM-PC. This lens has color coding on the stops, and the stops are printed several times in different places; I think I need an education about this, I'm pretty new to photography.

So the specific sub-questions I'm looking to answer are:

  1. Are the color-coded f-stops an industry standard or vendor specific?
  2. Why is the 2.5 stop red?
  3. Why is the 5.6 stop orange?
  4. What is the red line pointing to "16" on the right?
  5. Why are the f-stops printed twice?
  6. Why are the f-stops mirrored under the focus ring?
  7. What is the green set of f-stops? Note that the ring doesn't even turn that far.
  8. What does the little circle mean above the last f-stop?
  9. What is the L/O switch near the camera side of the lens? I'm guessing (L)ock and (0)pen, but I can't figure for what. It has a little button, but I can't tell what it does, doesn't move anything in the mount. This is not the mount lock, BTW, those are two other buttons. (UPDATE: this was stuck but finally started turning. I figured out it unlocks and removes the OM mount, I'm guessing to allow other branded mounts)

Note that I have used this lens on a 35mm Olympus OM-PC and adapted to a D3400 so it's working properly, just want to know about the seemingly extraneous f-stop labeling and colors.

Thanks.

Edit 04/MAR 2019: This is a Vivitar TX series lens which has interchangable mounts. I did not realize this at the time of posting but have learned a lot since then.

Lens Markings Front of lens

(I had a picture of the lock ring, but apparently I'm too new to new to post "more than 2 links"...er...images... ;P )

  • vintage gear "from the mid-80's"? Are you trying to make me feel old? =) – scottbb Mar 22 '17 at 0:05
  • Ha! Not on purpose, but I'm a musician and guitars are considered vintage after 15-20 years, so I guess that's the scale I'm used to. – Wilbur Whateley Mar 23 '17 at 1:40
  • So my '97 Texas Roadhouse Strat with overwound pickups is vintage? I need to find a buyer! ;-) – scottbb Mar 23 '17 at 1:43
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    Age of technology key; Designed when people typed with their thumbs: modern, designed when people typed with their fingers: vintage, designed when people actually talked to each other: ancient. – PhotoScientist Jun 18 '18 at 17:35
  • @PhotoScientist this would quantify antiquity as anything before (very roughly) the 18th century CE. – Wilbur Whateley Jun 25 '18 at 22:39
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I can only answer a small subset of the questions you asked and speculate about some others, but perhaps these would be enough to give you an orientation to this lens and its basic operation.

There is no industry standard for these markings. There isn't even a vendor standard, as vendors are apt to change things up over time. (Mostly toward having fewer markings, I'll note.)

The red line going to f/16 on the right would also serve as the indicator for infra-red focus. Infra-red light comes to a different focus than visible light. That is, if you used infra-red film, you would focus without a filter on the lens, adjust the focus mark to go to the red line instead, put your filter on, and take the shot.

The markings under the focus ring that have the mirrored selection of f-stop numbers are meant to be a guide to depth-of-field. For example, in the picture as the lens focus is set, if f/16 were selected, one would expect an 8x10" print to have acceptable depth of field (and thus appear to be in focus) for subjects between about 23' and 31'. At f/2.5, depth of field is much narrower, and only a subject at about 28' would have acceptably sharp focus. Depth-of-field is very context-dependent (mostly based on degree of enlargement of the print, followed by typical viewing distance), so these markings are only ever rough guides for the user. The numbers have to be mirrored so as to indicate both the near acceptable focus distance and the far acceptable focus distance.

Vivitar also made various flashes for cameras, and the color coding of f-stops may have matched markings on the flash units for picking specific automatic exposure modes, but that is a speculation.

The dot over the f/16 mark may have indicated the setting needed to take advantage of certain automatic exposure modes on the camera, but that is also speculation.

The "58mm" is simply a reference to the filter thread diameter. The diameter symbol with the circle and slash indicates that purpose. (Hat tip to Caleb on symbology.)

  • Really cool about the DOF reference on the lens. Is it really just indicating the DOF then? Not necessarily in reference to any print size. For example, as the lens in my picture is set, subject distance is 29 feet. DOF would have near limit of ~23 feet and far limit just over 30 feet. This is consistent with dofmaster.com which says (for 135mm lens at f16 on Full-Frame): Subject distance 29 ft Depth of field Near limit 23.6 ft Far limit 37.6 ft Total 14 ft – Wilbur Whateley Jun 13 '18 at 19:00
  • The character is not phi (ɸ), it's a diameter symbol. – Caleb Jun 13 '18 at 20:44
  • Thanks for the clarification, Caleb. All I can say is that I fell in to the class of people who "commonly" misidentify it as a "phi" symbol. – Wesley R. Elsberry Jun 18 '18 at 16:33
  • Wilbur, "Cambridge in Color" includes this in their explanation of the circle of confusion, the basis for calculating depth of field: "When does the circle of confusion become perceptible to our eyes? An acceptably sharp circle of confusion is loosely defined as one which would go unnoticed when enlarged to a standard 8x10 inch print, and observed from a standard viewing distance of about 1 foot." Print size and viewing distance is baked into this. I don't know any way to generalize those factors out. – Wesley R. Elsberry Jun 18 '18 at 17:12
  • In film photography, the lens was generally the limiting factor to the circle of confusion whereas today the limiting factor may be lens, sensor, or digital image chain. On lenses designed for film photography, then, the CoC is defined by the DoF rather than the other way around. Although MTF charts are generally provided with lenses, it was not uncommon to used published or measured Hyperfocal Distance to calculate a lens' Depth of Field and therefore its Circle of Confusion. By subjectively estimating Near Focus Hyperfocal distance or DoF, one can back-out CoC for a given application. – PhotoScientist Jun 18 '18 at 18:47
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Why are the f-stops mirrored under the focus ring?

It's a scale that shows you approximate depth of field at the selected aperture. So if you select f/16, you can look at distances on the focus ring at the two lines marked 16 to get an idea of the nearest and farthest distances that will be in focus.

What is the red line pointing to "16" on the right?

I think it does double duty as the DOF scale marking for f/16 and also the infrared focus indicator. When shooting with IR-sensitive film, you'd focus manually and then move the point on the focus ring that lines up with the normal focus index line (red line with dot, dead center) over to the IR focus indicator.

Why are the f-stops printed twice?

What is the green set of f-stops? Note that the ring doesn't even turn that far.

Best guess: those marks are for use when the lens is adapted to a different camera system.

Why is the 5.6 stop orange?

Might indicate the sharpest f-stop.

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    Regarding the second set of f-stops, yes you are right: this is a TX (interchangable mount) lens and on some systems the aperture selection operates the other way. When disconnecting the adapter, the aperture rings turns through the range, open wide in the middle and closing to f16 when turning either direction from center. – Wilbur Whateley Jun 13 '18 at 18:56
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    If lens manufacturers could accurately and objectively mark the sharpest stop on a lens...half of the lens articles on internet would disappear. – Wilbur Whateley Mar 4 at 18:55

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