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I have a question about colour spaces.

I have taken photos on a digital SLR in RAW, processed them in Adobe Lightroom and then exported them as JPG's with the sRGB profile.

On my home setup with the DELL u2713h (wide gamut monitor), when I open photos using a colour managed application - the JPG's look great, and when I open them in a non-colour managed application they don't - i understand why, and this is all fine.

The problem i am having is after I have uploaded the JPG's to Google Photos and then view them from my work computer which uses the standard run-of-the mill Dell monitors. When viewing at work the colours are over-saturated even when viewed using a colour managed application.

Everything I have been reading suggests this shouldn't be the case as it should be reading sRGB from the photo and displaying normally?

Can anyone help me to understand why this may be? I'm worried all the photos I share are coming out over saturated when viewed by other people.

thanks.

PS - here is an example photo https://goo.gl/photos/BHecW2AegsEgWBw78

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    sRGB is a colour space, not a colour profile. Do your images have embedded ICC profiles? – Mick Oct 12 '16 at 9:18
  • @Mick im not sure. How can i find that out? – Grant Oct 12 '16 at 10:06
  • There is no option in LR for embedding so i guess whatever it does by default.. – Grant Oct 12 '16 at 10:07
  • @Mick it says sRGB.. – Grant Oct 12 '16 at 10:41
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If you edited with a wide-gamut monitor, it is likely that in editing, you have chosen some colors that are 'out of gamut' for standard monitors. Your wide-gamut monitor can display them, but others can not. You can control for this by changing your monitor profile, using a monitor calibration tool. If you have Photoshop, there is a basic tool built in. You can switch easily in Photoshop by using the 'soft proof' setting. There is also a tool built into MacOS in the Displays setting. Here you can switch Display profile easily. (Sorry, don't remember if Windows has one).

Another issue may be the type of screen you are viewing on. Your main screen is likely a IPS-type display, where the image stays true to color even when viewed off-axis. But if the 'run of the mill' Dell displays are TN, then the color shifts dramatically when viewed off axis. There is really no fix for this, other than getting the colors within the gamut of the display, and within the sRGB color profile. (and viewing in the middle of the display).

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The way I am reading it: the images were made with display A and they look fine on display A. They don't look correctly on other display(s).

If that's the case, assuming that the other displays are set to defaults, your display A profile or setting may be the culprit.

Posting an example could be helpful. People here could tell if they see anything wrong. Get test images or color checker image and display them on your A display to see if they look correct.

  • I have edited with a link to one of the affected photos. Can you see anything wrong? – Grant Oct 13 '16 at 3:28
  • @Grant the photo looks normal to me. Bit on the saturated side, but normal. – MirekE Oct 13 '16 at 14:04
  • @MirekE the core issue here is the Dell monitors with Premier Color display sRGB slightly muted compared to non-wide gammut displays, so what happens one will correct it and it looks great on your Dell, but over saturated everywhere else. – Gmck Oct 15 '16 at 18:10
  • hey guys thanks for all your input. i went ahead and bought an x-rite i1 display pro and have calibrated my monitors using the Dell UltraSharp Color Calibration Solution which seems to be better. In addition, i have also found another piece of software by Dell call the Dell UltraSharp Calibration System which seems to do something different - instead of writing information to the monitor the output is an ICC profile. My question is - do i need to update the monitor as well as create a new profile? or is the monitor update enough... – Grant Oct 26 '16 at 10:04
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When I setup a new work space, I take a known image that I have worked with in the past and I adjust the main monitor brightness, contrast and colors.

Then I compare the screen to a printed version, a tablet, and a few new smart phones.

After the main monitor is calibrated, I adjust the other monitors. I usually work with 3 monitors.

I usually only proof my prints/shots with my best monitor (display resolution, colors, and clarity.)

Even with top of the line Intel graphics to run all three monitors, only one monitor represents what most users will typically see. The other two let me know what the image looks like with less than ideal settings.

NOTE: There is a possibility that your operating system in conjunction with your conversion software is writing strangely. I've notice images exported to JPEG from Canon raw on a Windows 10 computer will not show the revisions in thumbnails. Where there is a file reading/writing issue. I also noticed this in Topaz lab exports.

  • This answer seems to be off-topic. You are not talking about color management but explain how you try to make a few displays look similar... – Olivier Nov 15 '16 at 19:09
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    I politely disagree. Grant is looking for a baseline to work consistently and get repeatable results. I defined how to manage output and display colors. Once he knows what other users are looking at, then he can calibrate respective color space/color profiles. – Jeffrey Michael Nov 15 '16 at 19:41

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