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I shoot about 400-500 pictures every day. Many of them are in burst mode. Will this wear out the shutter? I bought a Rebel 1200 D and five months the shutter gave error 30 and had to be repaired. Is it because of too much shooting in burst mode and flash?

  • You probably reached the limit of the shutter, but if your camera is still under warranty, you should talk to Canon. – MirekE Jun 7 '16 at 15:51
  • Not sure about its statistics validity, but might be an interesting look nevertheless: olegkikin.com/shutterlife/canon_eos_1200d.htm – PlasmaHH Jun 8 '16 at 7:55
  • Sam: we don't include "thanks" and things like that in questions here. Upvoting and accepting answers (the tick box next to the answer you found most useful) is the way to go instead. – Philip Kendall Jun 9 '16 at 10:10
  • @PlasmaHH a statistical sampling of only 12 bodies is pretty insignificant. Particularly when those most likely to find the page and enter their data are those who have experienced a shutter failure. – Michael C Jun 9 '16 at 15:04
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It doesn't really matter whether shutter activations are in burst mode or not. What matters is that they happen. 500 shots per day for 150 days is 75,000 shutter activations! Canon no longer provides shutter ratings for the Rebel series but back when they did the oldest Rebels and later lower priced models had ratings of 50,000 activations while the later higher priced Rebels had 100,000 cycle shutter ratings. Your shutter failed almost exactly halfway between 50K and 100K. It sounds like you just wore it out.

It's just like miles on a car: they cause wear and tear whether it takes six years or six decades to put a million miles on one. Most cars won't last a million miles. Most 1200D Rebel shutters probably won't last much more than 75,000 shutter cycles either.

If you bought the camera new I'd be interested to know if the shutter replacement was covered by Canon under warranty.

  • What happens when it reaches the limit (Ex : 75000). Can you simply replace the shutter or the camera is of no use anymore ? – Shyju Jun 7 '16 at 15:11
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    Nothing necessarily happens. A shutter rating is an estimate of the expected service life. Some will fail before they reach that number, others will last longer. Whether to replace the shutter or not is usually based on the cost/benefit analysis. If an older used Rebel is only worth around $200 and it's going to cost $250 to replace, what would you do? On the other hand, if it's a used 1D X in otherwise excellent shape it is probably worth $400 or so to replace the shutter. – Michael C Jun 7 '16 at 15:16
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    Actually no - FEW should wear out earlier. It is like car wear and tear - if the car falls apart after 20.000km, it is not wear and tear, it is a defect. – TomTom Jun 7 '16 at 15:29
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    75,000shutter cycles on Rebel is hardly the equivalent of 20K km on an automobile. More like 500K km on a Yugo. – Michael C Jun 7 '16 at 15:37
  • In short, the stated value is their guess at the length of the straightest part of the "bathtub curve". – user31502 Jun 7 '16 at 16:06
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From what I've read online, Err 30 is almost always a shutter failure, consistent with Canon's documentation for this specific error ("a malfunction with the shutter has been detected"). You should be able to get the camera fixed under warranty; if not, replacing the shutter would cost about $200 to $300—not worth it for a 1200D.

While newer Canon EOS Rebel models have no official shutter rating, similar entry-level Nikon DSLRs like the D3000 series have shutters rated for 100,000+ actuations. More advanced bodies are typically rated for at least 200,000 or 300,000 cycles (my Pentax K-3 II is rated for 200,000 cycles). Bear in mind that this is an MTBF value; the shutter can fail much earlier or later than this.

400-500 shots a day is extremely heavy use for an entry-level DSLR and I'd strongly recommend that you upgrade to a more advanced camera body. These kind of low-end DSLRs are typically only designed with the expectation that the user would only shoot a few dozen to a hundred or so pictures a day. I'd probably recommend the Canon EOS 7D Mark II (rated for 200K cycles) considering your usage profile; sadly, the more affordable 80D is rated to only 100K cycles.

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    Looking at current prices, going with cheaper cameras and wearing them out isn't an unreasonable option. The EOS 7D is currently about three times the price of 1200D. Going furrther, even though it is disproportionate to the market value of the 1200D, the shutter can be repaired many times for the price of a replacement. There might be other reasons for upgrading, but cost per click wouldn't break even for several years. – user50888 Jun 8 '16 at 2:45
  • The EOS 7D of 2009 vintage is no longer in production. I think you mean the EOS 7D Mark II introduced about 18 months ago. Having used both rather extensively I can tell you they are in no way close to being the same camera. 5 years is a LONG time in the camera industry. – Michael C Jun 8 '16 at 6:48
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    What you say about "cost per click" is somewhat true, but the shutter is not the only piece of the 7D Mark II that is far more durable than the 1200D. And there are photos one can capture with the 7D Mark II that are much harder, if not impossible, to reliably capture with the 1200D. This is particularly the case when tracking moving subjects under flickering stadium lighting. – Michael C Jun 8 '16 at 6:52
  • Thanks a lot fellows. My question has been answered pretty exhaustively. – Sam Walker Jun 9 '16 at 3:55
  • Also consider a camera with an electronic shutter. Though you may find it wears out in other ways, depends on what you are doing with it. – vclaw Jun 10 '16 at 11:12

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