I just purchased a new Yongnuo YN685 to replace a trusty but old Canon 580-EX (the original, not the II version) that is misfiring and may be on its last legs.
After playing with it for a few minutes I seem to have found a major problem with severe underexposure in bounce mode at longer focal lengths. My question is whether this is a sample defect, a design or firmware issue, or it's just how this speedlite behaves. As an event photographer I use bounce mode almost exclusively, so if this is just the way it works it is not usable for me.
I have obtained identical results using two different units purchased through completely different channels, so I'm leaning towards a firmware programming problem.
Below is a summary of my research, including sample images. I can make the RAW files available if necessary
I'm using the YN685 with a Canon 5D3 and 24-105mm f/4 L lens. At 24mm the exposure, in an appropriate bounce situation, (white ceiling) looks reasonable and about the same as what I get with the 580-EX.
As the lens is zoomed in the exposure gets progressively worse (under exposed) so that at 105mm, in exactly the same location, distance and bounce configuration the image is between 2 and 3 stops under-exposed. I know the flash has plenty of power because it produces the correct exposure at 24mm, and I can force the correct exposure at 105mm if I set the flash to manual 3/4 power instead of ETTL.
My 580EX has no problem with this situation at any focal length.
The following images demonstrate the problem. They were all taken on the above-mentioned 5D3/24-105 on a tripod with the flash mounted to the camera hot shoe. The camera was set to manual exposure 1/125 at f/8 with the flash head pointing straight up to a white 10 foot vaulted ceiling. The images were shot in RAW and then imported into Lightroom and immediately exported as 900x600 JPEGs with no manual editing applied.
The file names have the form
[Flash] is the speedlite name,
M075 for "manual 3/4 power",
[FlashZoomSetting] describes whether the flash zoom is manual or automatic, and the focal length, and
[LensFocalLength] is obvious.
The first two show the results with my Canon 580-EX speedlight. When in bounce mode the flash head zoom goes to its maximum and the display reads "--", so the filename doesn't include [FlashZoomSetting].
580EX_ETTL_FL24.jpg Lens Focal Length 24mm
580EX_ETTL_FL105.jpg Lens Focal Length 105mm
The next two show the corresponding results with the YN685, demonstrating the extreme under-exposure at 105mm.
Lens focal length 24mm; Flash Zoom AUTO mode 24mm
Lens focal length 105mm; Flash Zoom AUTO mode 105mm
Next an of image with the flash in MANUAL power mode (instead of ETTL) to show there's not a problem with flash output.
Lens focal length 105mm; Flash manual power 3/4, zoom AUTO 105mm
At this point I surmised that maybe what is happening is that the firmware is unaware that the flash is in bounce mode, and when the flash zoom is at 105mm it reduces power because the zoom would be concentrating the light into a smaller area. So I shot in ETTL with the flash zoom in manual mode at the widest possible setting, 20mm. But that didn't produce anything different, so either my theory is incorrect or it's ignoring the manual zoom setting.
Lens focal length 24mm; Flash ETTL, zoom manual 20mm
Lens focal length 105mm; Flash ETTL, zoom manual 20mm
Lens Flash Flash Flash Focal Exposure Mode Power Zoom Length Result ----- ----- ----- ------ ----------------- ETTL Auto A 24 24 OK ETTL Auto A 105 105 2-3 stops under Man 3/4 A 105 105 OK (note 1) ETTL Auto M 20 24 OK ETTL Auto M 20 105 2-3 stops under
(Note 1: just to show a correct exposure is possible in bounce mode at 105mm -- i.e. the flash has plenty of power).