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When I take a RAW photo on my Nexus 5x, I got an overexposed photo:

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Here's the in-camera JPEG for comparison, which is properly exposed:

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Do smartphone cameras generally expose to the right? I've found this behavior across multiple generations of Nexus phones. Or is it something specific to Android or to the Camera FV-5 app I'm using?

Is there some property in the DNG metadata that tells Lightroom what correction to apply to restore the normal exposure?


EDIT: In response to a comment saying that that's because the dynamic range of the scene is very high, I tried another scene, with far less dynamic range, and once again, the DNG is overexposed:

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... relative to the JPEG:

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Footnotes:

  1. I don't know if the in-camera JPEG was produced by using HDR. The Nexus 5x has it enabled by default, and I don't know whether it chose to use HDR for this photo. Even if it did, HDR, or the lack of it, shouldn't cause overexposure.
  2. I opened the DNG in RawTherapee, and it says that both highlights and shadows are clipped.
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    Any chance of posting link to the original DNG for experimentation?
    – mattdm
    Dec 20, 2015 at 15:18
  • I'd like to do so, but I first want to delete the location tag from the photo. I haven't been able to do so using any of the software I have (Lightroom 5, RawTherapee, Acorn, Preview). Any idea how to do that? Alternatively, if you give me your email ID, I'll email it to you. I don't want to post it publicly with the location tag intact. Dec 21, 2015 at 6:13
  • Are those two versions of one photo or 2 completely separate shoots took with perfectly same camera alignment?
    – Agent_L
    Dec 21, 2015 at 9:14
  • It's a RAW+JPEG mode. Dec 21, 2015 at 10:16
  • How are you processing the DNGs into the JPEGs you're posting?
    – Blrfl
    Dec 21, 2015 at 11:43

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Do smartphone cameras generally expose to the right?

That's not something you can generalize because there are lots of smartphones out there with lots of different sensors in them that behave differently. Yours in particular appears to do that, probably because the manufacturer determined that doing so gets the best performance out of the sensor.

In either case, why isn't Lightroom able to figure out the correct exposure when I click the Auto tone?

Correction of a raw image is almost never a simple matter of adjusting the exposure by some constant k and having everything come out right. Camera sensors are nonlinear beasts, and the manufacturer of your handset will have done extensive testing to figure out what kind of transformation to apply to the raw sensor data to make it accurately reflect the light that actually fell on it. The result of this testing is called a base curve.

Lightroom and applications that process raw images ship with base curves for the cameras they support, identify which one to apply based on the make and model information in the raw file and apply it early in the pipeline. Your Nexus 5x is probably not one it knows about, and Auto Tone's reaction to that might be to apply a one-size-fits-all base curve or none at all.

Manufacturers don't usually hand their base curves to anyone who asks. It's possible to use a raw and JPEG taken of a specially-constructed scene to approximate the curve used by the camera when it creates a JPEG. (Here's an explanation of how the developers of Darktable create their base curves.) Adobe is either going through a similar process or may pay camera manufacturers for the information.

The way you'd fix this for yourself is to go through a similar process to determine the base curve and then develop a Tone Curve (Adobe's terminology) preset that mimics the results.

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  • Okay, when my camera exposes to the right, does it write out the exposure compensation value to the DNG metadata so that the viewer software can compensate for it? That is, if it exposed +1.5EV, it could record this information so that the viewer can apply a -1.5EV compensation while displaying it. Or is there no such field in the DNG metadata? This is similar to how some image formats have a field in the metadata for orientation, which the viewer needs to apply to restore the correct orientation. Dec 21, 2015 at 6:33
  • @KartickVaddadi: The exposure is what the metering algorithm (or you, if you exposed it manually) believes to be correct for the scene. By definition, that's 0 EV of compensation. Don't expect any special insight into your camera's metering system.
    – Blrfl
    Dec 21, 2015 at 11:39
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I think you're under a misconception here. There's no evidence that the Android phone is doing anything but picking a middle exposure. The scene has a lot of dynamic range — it's a big difference between the shadows and the sky, but the camera is doing a great job keeping both (as you say, it looks like it activated the auto-HDR in camera).

Lightroom is just, for whatever reason, choosing to really pull up those shadows when you hit "auto". And, you can see that it is actually looking detail in the sky when doing so. The misconception is that Lightroom matches the camera's settings with "auto tone". This is very much not true. It's basically seeing all the largely-darker landscape and saying "let me fix that for you!" — even though it's probably better in a lower key. Lightroom is great software, but that particular feature tends to be unreliable and often extreme. (You don't have to take my word for it — see Is Lightroom Auto Tone very dodgy?).

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  • I take your point about Auto Tone. I added another image to the question, this time with less dynamic range, and the problem is still there. Dec 21, 2015 at 10:20
  • Are you using auto tone on the new image, too?
    – mattdm
    Dec 21, 2015 at 12:15
  • I actually stopped using auto tone. All the photos in the question are now without auto tone. I realised that by including auto tone, I was asking two questions in one, which led to confusion, so I removed auto tone. Sorry for including it in the first place. Dec 21, 2015 at 14:15
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This is based on my experience with Nexus 6 though.

I take pictures in DNG+JPG. When importing image into Lightroom, the highlight always blows out and the image looks overall overexposing. It's actually leaving around 2EVs of highlight and you can pull it back using the tone controls while paying attention to the highlight clipping.

Phone's metering system does try to eliminate large complete blown-outs (full-well) which will cause a lot of issues. But it's not completely ETTR. It will also ignore clippings when you are doing point metering. HDR+ does do ETTR in some circumstances. But it's not consistent. From my observation, it lowers the exposure when there are large areas clipping out. It may not be a matter of metering, but selecting an lower exposure as the base for processing.

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