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In terms of image quality and image stabilization, what difference does it make to have an autofocus motor in-body vs.in-lenses ?

The question How do camera body motors compare to in-lens motors for focusing? discusses only focusing itself, but I'm interested in other possible side-effects.

marked as duplicate by Michael C, NickM, James Snell, Hugo, John Cavan Nov 21 '15 at 3:10

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  • RE: stabilization. Are you aware of any lenses with in lens stabilization that do not have an in lens focus motor? I'm not sure there are any. At least not any mass marketed consumer/professional grade lenses meant for general photography. – Michael C Nov 18 '15 at 5:58
  • Re: Image quality. Image quality is usually judged in standardized tests that include very careful manual focusing, rather than using auto focus. This is to eliminate auto focus inaccuracy and shot-to-shot inconsistency as a source of poor optical performance. – Michael C Nov 18 '15 at 6:00
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    See also photo.stackexchange.com/q/27424/15871 – Michael C Nov 18 '15 at 6:05
  • @MichaelClark My question was about the Image stabilization and image clarity and not about What is the difference in inbuilt AF motor vs AF in lens ? as pointed by you in the duplicate. This will not answer my question because the answer does not speak about stabilization and image clarity. – New one Nov 18 '15 at 12:00
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    The answers there don't speak about that because there is no impact, and, really, no reason for anyone answering to think to spell that out. It might help if you spelled out why you think there might be an effect. – mattdm Nov 18 '15 at 14:52
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In general, lenses capable of auto focus that are dependent upon a motor in the camera body are older designs. Among lenses made for systems with cameras that may include a focus motor in the body but that also include camera models without focus motors in the body the lenses with focus motors in the lens are the newer, more up-to-date designs. Newer, more up-to-date designs tend to perform better optically than older lenses within the same class of lenses. They do this not because they have SW/HSM/USM/etc. focus motors nor because they have VR/VC/OS/IS/etc., but rather because they are also newer, improved optical designs.

By far the most lenses that require a focus motor in the body are Nikon F mount lenses or third party lenses made for the Nikon F mount. Even though some might still be in production, the optical designs are the same as when they were introduced sometime between 1986, when Nikon introduced their first AF lenses that all required a camera with a focus motor, and 1998, when Nikon introduced the first AF-S lenses with the Silent Wave autofocus mechanism built into the lens. (Nikon introduced AF-I lenses in 1992 that had built in geared focus motors, but only in their super telephoto series of lenses because the focus elements in those large lenses were too heavy for the motors included in the Nikon camera bodies.)

At Nikon, image stabilization was still a couple of years away from getting off the ground in 1998. Nikon's first VR lens was introduced in 2000, and it was an AF-S lens with a Silent Wave Motor in the lens. All of the Nikon VR lenses of which I am aware are AF-S lenses with focus motors in the lens.

In theory it is possible to have a Nikon AF (no motor) lens that is optically superior to an AF-S VR (Silent Wave motor and Vibration Reduction) counterpart. But in practice no such lenses have been produced. All of the R&D has been aimed at improving the more modern lenses because those are what the market is most interested in buying. So the answer to your question with regard to Nikon is, "Yes, it matters because only lenses with focus motors inside the lens even offer in-lens stabilization."

The same is true for Pentax. No new F, FA, D FA, DA, etc. lenses have been introduced without also having focus motors in the lens (designated by a "DC" or "SDM" in the name of the lens) since the first Pentax lenses with built-in motors were rolled out. So all improvements in optical performance made over the last decade and a half have only been applied to lenses with built-in focus motors.

Pentax implements stabilization in the camera body rather than in the lens. This means any lens used on a Pentax body gains the benefit of the stabilization capabilities of that body. It also means that longer focal length lenses that need the most stabilization get the least benefit from in-body stabilization. The same amount of camera movement creates more blur with a longer focal length lens than with a wider focal length lens and thus requires faster and more extensive movement of the sensor to compensate to the same degree. So the answer to your question with regard to Pentax is, "Yes it matters because the newer lenses that incorporate improvements in optical performance also include built-in focus motors. It also matters because in-camera stabilization is inherently less effective at the focal lengths where it is needed the most when compared to lens-based stabilization."

With Sony/Minolta newer lens designs all have built in focus motors but no built in stabilization. And while they may try to sell you on the argument that putting a focus motor and stabilization in the camera body makes the non-stabilized lenses with no focus motor needed cheaper, a comparative look at the prices of Sony's non-stabilized lenses versus Canon's/Nikon's stabilized lenses indicate there is little if any difference in price between lenses that are otherwise comparable. Even third party lenses that include stabilization for Canon/Nikon mounts are priced very close if not identically to their non-stabilized Sony mount counterparts. So the answer to your question with regard to Sony is, "Yes it matters because the newest optical designs are only offered with lenses that include built-in focus motors in the lens. It also matters because in-camera stabilization is inherently less effective at the focal lengths where it is needed the most when compared to lens-based stabilization."

Canon has never produced a mass marketed DSLR body with a focusing motor in the body. They've also never produced a DSLR body with in-camera stabilization. They created the all electronic EF lens mount for their brand new EOS system in 1987. Every EOS lens with autofocus capability has a focus motor in the lens. Every EOS lens with image stabilization capability has the IS built into the lens. No EOS camera uses a mechanical connection between the body and lens to control any aspect of the lens: focus, aperture, or stabilization. So the answer to your question with regard to Canon is, "What's an autofocus motor doing in the body? In the semiconductor/information processing/high speed micro-servo/ring type ultrasonic motor age, why on Earth would anyone wish to do that?"

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The location of the focus motor has no effect on image quality or image stabilization.

Image quality isn't affected, because the focus motor is irrelevant when actually taking the picture — once focus is found, you can turn off AF if you like.

There's also no reason that image stabilization would be affected, although as Michael Clark points out, this is a highly-theoretical concern as lenses with built-in stabilization but no focus motor aren't common (in fact, I can't think of one).

  • Image quality is affected by the image being in focus. If the focus motor does not work properly, it does affect the image quality. – simon Nov 20 '15 at 10:13
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    @simon Sure, but motor placement isn't really a factor there. – mattdm Nov 20 '15 at 12:05
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Having a focus motor in body or not is only relevant in lens compatibility.

Lenses that have no built in focus motor can't perform AF on bodies without focus motor.

These bodies rely on the so called ring focus motors in lenses to perform AF. Like SWM motor for Nikon or USM for canon.

Since these technologies evolve fast and focusing is closely related to lens construction the built in motors are often better. As in faster to focus. Again not related to image quality, only speed and operation noise and so.

Similarly VR technology is in most cases part of the lens since very lens specific. The VR technology does not depend on the motor in the body.

  • Are you aware of any mass produced lenses that include VR in the lens but require an in-camera motor for AF? – Michael C Nov 19 '15 at 2:48
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    Not that i Know. Would surprise me since VR is found in feature rich lenses . – hcpl Nov 19 '15 at 6:55

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