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This is the first time I've seen this in my pictures and can't quite figure out what it is / how it fix it / or how to avoid it in the future. Was wondering if anyone here had any ideas?

The thing in question are those speckled bits on the buildings and a few red ones in the sky on the left. speckled bits on the buildings

After a bit of research, I thought maybe they are hot pixels (never encounter them before either, just looked up about them recently), but in my other shots, those pixels in those locations are fine nor do they shot up in other similar shots (or at least I don't notice them). They seem to be fixed to that location on the building regardless of position/zoom.

Another example of them, though this one has less (cropped from a larger picture, but it was from the middle of the shot extending to the right of the frame). more speckled bits on the buildings

Between the two shots, these buildings were roughly 90 degrees relative to me on opposite shores, so I doubt it is some crazy reflection from somewhere.

I'm using a canon 550d (T2i) and the first picture taken 5" shutter, iso400, and F5.6. The second picture is similar: 6", iso400, F4. Both using kit lens (18-55mm) on a tripod with no filter on. Both those pictures were also from a set of bracketed shots and the spekcles show up in all of them in the same places at slightly different brightnesses. Exposures went from 1.3" to 20" and 1.6" to 25" with everything else was fixed. Was also shooting in raw.

If it mattered, an hour or two before, I was shooting in near pitch black (no bright light sources) with up to 150" exposures. No issues in those shots though.

Added links to the full res pictures:

First image: https://i.stack.imgur.com/ZgMJ8.jpg

Second image: https://i.stack.imgur.com/TphmU.jpg

First image again at +2 exposure: https://i.stack.imgur.com/EESh6.jpg

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Can you post these images at a much higher resolution please? Its quite hard to see at this size (feel free to water-mark them for copyright purposes) \$\endgroup\$ Nov 1, 2013 at 16:47
  • \$\begingroup\$ Check out [this][1] question. I think the causes are pretty much the same. [1]: photo.stackexchange.com/questions/24410/… \$\endgroup\$
    – BobT
    Nov 1, 2013 at 17:56
  • \$\begingroup\$ Added links to the original res images (couldn't find a way to attach high res images directly to here). Hm, actually I never thought of that. Those lights could be legit tower lights as they do have a different quality then the blotches. Though, on the +2 exposure image, I still can't see any hint of the tower supporting the lights. \$\endgroup\$
    – mitim
    Nov 1, 2013 at 22:14

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Based on the position of the red dots in between the building, they appear to be radio towers. That is a typical configuration for the aircraft warning lights on two parallel antennas and I think the antenna itself may also be visible, but it's hard to tell at that detail level. My guess is that the red blotch is also something accurate to what was there, but it's hard to tell at the small sizes you posted.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Hm, you may be right for those lights. See my comment above. :) \$\endgroup\$
    – mitim
    Nov 1, 2013 at 22:16
  • \$\begingroup\$ @mitim - hmm, I'm less confident about the radio tower conclusion with the higher resolution ones, but there are definitely some lighting effects being used. You can see the red blotch has some form to it and right below it is some blue lighting effects. There is also a weird yellowish spot near the red ones that might indicate they are some kind of weird reflection, but I'm unsure. It's a bit of a mystery. Might still be radio tower though. \$\endgroup\$
    – AJ Henderson
    Nov 2, 2013 at 1:08
  • \$\begingroup\$ yup, turns out you're right on the towers (radio, warning, whatever kind they are). Good eye for spotting that. \$\endgroup\$
    – mitim
    Nov 4, 2013 at 10:52
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The last paragraph is very important - would they be hot pixels, you will see them in the black image as well.

If you rule out reflections, laser toys, UFOs and other sources outside of camera, it must be inside ;)

See the article http://www.astrophys-assist.com/educate/noise/noise.htm covering the physical sources of noise on CCD and how to treat them. They usually appear in regions of high contrast, where the charge leaks to neighboring cells, which is not your case.

On the upper image, the red dost are quite regular, aren't there some radio masts or safety red lights on the buildings?

After more careful look on your second image, there is some blue/violet laser projection on the right building. Can the red be something similar?

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    – mattdm
    Nov 1, 2013 at 10:55
  • \$\begingroup\$ turns out you are correct on the floating red dots \$\endgroup\$
    – mitim
    Nov 4, 2013 at 10:49
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The "radio towers" in the upper left quadrant of the first image appear to be ghosting. The pattern in the upper left quadrant is an inverted and flipped version of the brightest lights at the corresponding spot in the lower right quadrant of the photo. For an easier to visualize example and a fuller explanation please see is it normal to get significant lens flare with a 50mm f/1.8 prime lens?. If you under-develop the original by several stops you might be able to see more clearly that the pattern of the original highlights in the lower right quadrant of the photo matches the ghosting in the upper left.

The reflections are much dimmer, so the colors are not the same. All three channels are pretty much blown out in the highlights but the reflections are stronger in the red channel than blue and green. The original lights are probably equally red, but when a light source is twice the brightness needed to produce full saturation in the red channel and just over fully saturated in the blue and green channels it will appear mostly white, since the values for R, G, and B will all be 255. The color of the reflections are also probably influenced by the anti-reflective coatings on the lens.

For the rest of the images, the reflections on the windows appear to be reflections of other bright lights in the skyline that are outside the angle of view of the lens/camera when you took the shot.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ it wasn't ghosting in this case for those light towers, but I think you are right on the window reflections though. In my answer, I got the same conclusion on those. \$\endgroup\$
    – mitim
    Nov 4, 2013 at 10:51
  • \$\begingroup\$ I meant the 'radio towers' and it sure looks like ghosting. The pattern is clearly a much dimmer flipped and inverted version of the brightest highlights in the same position (relative to the center of the frame) in the lower right quadrant. If the original RAW file were developed several stops lower so that the highlights didn't bleed the pattern in the highlights would be more recognizable. There may also be some lights form radio towers int he same area mixed in as well. \$\endgroup\$
    – Michael C
    Nov 4, 2013 at 11:00
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Ah ha! I have figured them out. Mostly because I decided to go back and revisit where I shot specifically looking for causes for the mentioned things and walking all over to see from different angles. =b

The floating red lights are indeed towers of some sort. I concluded this mostly because I saw them with my own eyes and they were slowly flashing in a pattern. =b Not sure how they are supported, but they must be extremely thin to not show up at max exposure?

I don't have a definite conclusion for the strange splotches, but I do have a good guess: they are indeed reflections, but from a dome shaped building somewhat far away (like a few km). Walking up very close to the four buildings I still couldn't see any crazy reflection, however those four buildings are in almost direct view of this blue lit domed building. The buildings in the second picture have an obscured view, but some blue light does get cast on them from the same source when I walked right up to them, perhaps giving off the blue splotches. Further out, the buildings behind these buildings don't seem to have these splotches. The domed building happens to only be a few stories high, which would explain why the splotches are only at the lower floors of the taller buildings as well.

As for the strange shape and pattern, I'm going to guess they are due to imperfections in the glass in each of the windows. Some aged warping of the glass maybe?

Thanks for everyone's help and ideas (certainly have better eyes then I do; wish I could set them all as part of the answer).

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Yeah, radio towers tend to be very thin and light weight so that they can be built up cheaply. That's also the exact reason they put the lights on them. Someone isn't going to fly in to a building because it's a big blocky thing they can see from miles away. A radio tower on the other hand is almost invisible in the dark. We have a number of them near some of the major roads around where I live, so I'm used to seeing them. Glad you were able to figure out some of it for sure. The reflections off the nearby building sound right too. Glass on skyscrapers often bows in to a bit of a lens. \$\endgroup\$
    – AJ Henderson
    Nov 4, 2013 at 14:06

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