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I Googled film vs dslr and found an article from 2007 that said:

Digital sensor has higher reflectiveness than film. The light bouncing back from sensor will cause flare and lead to poor optical performance. Lens with better or specialized coating solve this problem. So, film lens usually has poor optical performance with dslr.

Is the above statement valid?

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It depends on what, exactly, you mean by image quality. In terms of ghosting or flare caused by reflections on the back surfaces of the elements of a lens this is often the case. If the ghosting is visible through the viewfinder when the mirror is down and the shutter closed on a DSLR, then the ghosting is not being caused by the light bouncing off the front of the sensor. With a traditionally designed DSLR, if the ghosting is only visible in the photo taken but not in the viewfinder beforehand, then the source of the initial reflection is likely the IR filter in front of the sensor. The light that reflects off the front of the sensor must then bounce back from another surface forward in the optical path with enough intensity to be detected by the sensor. This could be either the uncoated back of a lens element or the uncoated back of a filter attached to the lens.

In general many lenses, especially those considered consumer grade, that were designed during the film era were not expected to perform at the same level lenses designed more recently for use in digital cameras are expected to. This applies not only in terms of lens coatings to reduce internal reflections, but also in terms of things like resolution, chromatic aberration, and distortion. Most film photos taken with consumer lenses were printed uncropped with very little darkroom adjustment made to the image. In contrast, after the digital revolution even shots made with compact point and shoot cameras and camera phones are routinely cropped and heavily processed. This has placed a demand for higher performance in even consumer grade lenses. Advances in materials and lens design, aided by the explosion of the processing capacity of super computers to simulate different ideas without the days, weeks, or even months needed to produce an actual prototype, have continued to advance the quality of not only premium lenses but consumer grade lenses as well.

This does not mean that it is always a compromise to use a lens made during the film era on a digital camera, nor does it mean that all lenses designed during the film era are inferior to any lens made specifically for digital. It is certainly possible to produce outstanding images using older lenses. But there are times, such as photographing a very dark scene containing a few bright light sources, when the advantages of well designed modern lenses will be evident.

Here's a link with drawings that illustrate the different kinds of flare. Ghosting caused by reflections off the film or sensor are the last type discussed. Thanks to @D3C4FF for the link in regard to another question.

Here's an image that illustrates what happens when you use a lens designed in the film era with a digital DSLR. As you can plainly see, the bright lights in the upper left corner of the image are ghosted in the lower right corner.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Without actual research and comparison of impact of different reflectance between on film and digital sensor, no conclusion can draw digital sensor is inference in this sense. \$\endgroup\$
    – Weiyan
    Commented May 21, 2013 at 0:06
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    \$\begingroup\$ Those measurements have been made. Most, if not all, digital sensors are much more reflective than virtually any film commonly used in photography. It is commonly accepted knowledge. \$\endgroup\$
    – Michael C
    Commented May 21, 2013 at 0:10
  • \$\begingroup\$ Yes, digital sensors is more reflective. The article in the link said that film reflectance is a source of glare already. Lens maker must cope with this issue. Its hard to fine tune the production just sufficient for film reflectance. Without actual research or testing, the only conclusion can be drawn is under extreme critical situation, digital sensor has poorer glare performance. I accept this answer for it enlightened me. \$\endgroup\$
    – Weiyan
    Commented May 21, 2013 at 0:21
  • \$\begingroup\$ Nikon has a Low-Reflectance Si Light Shielding Film Technology, [link]nikon.com/about/technology/rd/core/optics/arlssc_e/index.htm , but only apply to microscope, not for visual art application. The existing old days technology may sufficient in visual art applictaion. \$\endgroup\$
    – Weiyan
    Commented May 21, 2013 at 0:25
  • \$\begingroup\$ thank you. I see your newly edited photo after 14 hours. Did you use a filter? According to the link you provided, the ghost image is due to light bouncing between film and filter. Its the filter, not the back lens element bouncing back the light. So, no conclusion can draw that lens in film era has poorer performance in digital era. \$\endgroup\$
    – Weiyan
    Commented May 21, 2013 at 15:05
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Yes and no, when dealing with bright light sources (relative to the rest of the scene) are entering the lens, it is possible for internal reflection to result in a ghost image. This is most commonly seen when a light is directly in a dark shot. A blob of light and often a haze will appear opposite the center axis of the lens from the light source. When dealing with a normally lit scene however, the performance will be fine. It's only when the lens is used in a situation where internal reflection will be problematic.

This is because the light reflects with enough intensity that it is able to be picked up as brighter than another part of the scene. One such source of reflection was the back elements of a lens, but lenses designed for digital cameras use an anti-reflection coating to help prevent this.

The same effect can actually occur between a screw-in filter and the front element as well resulting in a similar effect.

Note that outside of incidents where there is a bright light source in a dark scene, internal reflection is not always a problem and film lenses can be used for many great shots with a digital sensor. It's just worth noting that internal reflection can be more of a problem for them in select situations.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Besides back lens element is a source of internal reflection, is digital sensor also a source of internal reflection? \$\endgroup\$
    – Weiyan
    Commented May 20, 2013 at 14:52
  • \$\begingroup\$ @user19980 - the sensor is fairly reflective yes, but it needs something to bounce off of. Think about it like a one way mirror. Half of the light may bounce off the mirror and back to the room, but if you are standing behind the mirror, you can only see what is reflecting off the mirror if you see the mirror reflected back to you. That's why it didn't matter with film. Since the film didn't reflect in the first place, it didn't matter if the rear element was reflective. \$\endgroup\$
    – AJ Henderson
    Commented May 20, 2013 at 15:18

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