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My question stems from the fact that the surface of the filter is completely out of focus.

My understanding is that light from any one point of the subject hits the lens all over... some of it passing through the darker part and some of it passing through the lighter part of the filter. Assuming the subject is in focus, all this light goes back to a single point on the sensor.

So it would seem logical to me that each point on the sensor will receive an equal amount of light that had passed through each of the halves (for simplicity sake) of the graduated filter.... and therefore I derive that logically the filter will not function differently from a uniform ND filter.

Obviously I am wrong, as evident by many successful photos of sunsets. Do lenses not use all of the light that hits the front element? If not, where does it all go?

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  • I was thinking exactly the same thing about lenses the other day and started confusing myself :D – Dreamager Mar 8 '13 at 16:27
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Your intuition is essentially correct but there are a few important points.

  1. When the lens is stopped right down, only light heading for the centre of the front element will make it into the picture, so the whole front element isn't used for every point of light hitting the sensor (though all of it is used for some point of light).

  2. Even when the aperture fully open and light is passing through the whole front element for every pixel, the filter will be a small but significant distance in front of the lens.

Time for some crudely handdrawn diagrams. For the first case, it's easy to see that if the filter is placed anywhere except dead level with the iris, then it's going to block light coming from the top of the scene but not the bottom:

http://www.mattgrum.com/photo_se/pinhole.jpg

Now consider the second case. The lens is wide open, and bar the effects of vignetting, each point of light from an object in focus spreads out, hitting the whole front element before being focussed down to a dot. This suggests that light from the top of the object and bottom of the object both pass through the same amount of ND filter, meaning there is no graduated effect. However the filter wont be mounted flush with the front element:

http://www.mattgrum.com/photo_se/wideopen.jpg

When slightly in front there will be a angle at which light just skirts under the filter when coming from the bottom of the scene, whilst light from the top is partially filtered out, leading to a difference in brightness between top and bottom.

However if the lens is very fast, and the filter is mounted quite close to the lens then the grad ND really wont work, as suggested by your question. To prove this I've taped a black card over a 50mm f/1.4 lens so it's just above the centre, covering almost half of the front element:

http://mattgrum.com/photo_se/f1_4.jpg

That's wide open, pointing at the sky (focus distance 3m). There is a slight vignetting visible at the top, but nowhere near the effect you'd expect from what is essentially a graduated filter that goes abruptly from 0 to 100% filtration! Here's the same shot at f/11:

http://mattgrum.com/photo_se/f11.jpg

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  • Awesome. I was starting to fear that magic were involved (again). – Johan Mar 11 '13 at 9:35
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    Does this mean though that the distance between the lens and the filter is important? – Johan Mar 11 '13 at 9:37
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    @Johan to an extent, yes the distance is important, especially with fast lenses wide open. However in practice grad NDs are used with the lens stopped down and therefore the distance has a much lesser effect on the amount of graduation and can be ignored. – Matt Grum Mar 12 '13 at 11:20
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Not every pixel will use light from all light reaching the lens.

Your assumption about all light going to a single point is correct only if you take a single point from your object. If you take another adjacent point from your subject, that point will be projected next to the previous point. In the end you have a focus plane (projection), not just a single dot.

In other words, central pixel of your image will use mainly light coming from the center of a lens as border pixels will use light from the edges of a lens. In that way part of the image that covered by grad-ND will be darker.

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  • I know every point in the subject focusses on a different point on the image plane. This doesn't answer my question. – Johan Mar 8 '13 at 14:02
  • @Johan - it does answer the question though. If you think about it like this, the majority of the light that makes up the center will come from the center, the majority of the light that makes up a pixel near the edge will come from near the edge. Yes, the ND filter impacts all the pixels some, but it has more of an effect where a larger percentage of the light making up that pixel has passed through it. To think about it another way, where do you see your finger if you hold it up in front of the top of the lens? – AJ Henderson♦ Mar 8 '13 at 14:53
  • @AJHenderson that's not quite how lenses work - if you have a lens with very little vignetting wide open then each pixel in the image will receive light that has passed through the entire front element. – Matt Grum Mar 8 '13 at 14:55
  • @mattgrum Right, but doesn't the majority of light come from the spot in the relative position? It impacts the whole picture, but not with equal influence. Am I missing something? – AJ Henderson♦ Mar 9 '13 at 20:09
  • @AJHenderson when the lens is wide open and an object is in focus, each pixel receives an equal account of light from each part old the front element, no matter where the pixel is on the sensor. Think of what happens when a point of light is out of focus, you get a circle of light on the sensor, and that circle is of uniform brightness. – Matt Grum Mar 9 '13 at 22:33

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