This is my first wedding season, and I'm mostly a natural light photographer. I'm starting to get weddings that end later in the evening. When it's really dark out, lenses obviously don't know what to focus on so they don't. I've heard of other photographers using video lights in situations like this? And if I use a video light then do I even need my flash for anything? At this point I have a detachable flash, and a Gary Fong diffuser. I would like to know how other wedding photographers handle this type of lighting situation. Any recommendations would be much appreciated! Thank you!

  • \$\begingroup\$ Duh! I should have mentioned what camera I'm working with. I use the Canon 5D Mark II. During the bride and groom's exit is really all I'm worried about as the venue does not have much outside lighting. I don't have issues with photographing in low light, but rather I don't know much about working with no light. When the bride and groom exit, they will be walking down a set of stairs with their friends and family on either side and they will go get in their car from there. I'm trying to figure out how to light this scene. Hope this helps explain a bit more. I'm going to look in the AF assist l \$\endgroup\$
    – Lacy2
    Sep 5, 2012 at 2:16
  • \$\begingroup\$ Was tempted to say "use manual focus then!", but that might not be feasible advice for some DSLRs depending on how good the liveview is.... \$\endgroup\$ Nov 28, 2019 at 21:38

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I would recommend a hotshoe flashgun with a good AF assist lamp. Provided you work within the distance limit the AF assist lamp will allow you to focus right down to total darkness!

The reason for this is that the AF assist lamp comes on briefly during focusing, then goes off. This is much less intrusive and noticeable than a video light which is constantly on! Generally the best shots to be had at a wedding happen when people don't know they are being photographed. Walking around with a big light above your head is going to make people very aware of you.

For the actual lighting I would use the flash, provided I could bounce it off something to diffuse the light. Outdoors this usually means the side a building or a canopy. This is a real advantage of the flash as a video light wont be bright enough to bounce, as spreading out over a wide area costs a lot in terms of power. Here is an example of an outdoor bounced flash portrait:

I only use direct flash as an absolute last resort, in fact I'd almost always prefer a longer exposure high ISO shot, with everything that entails.

PS If you shoot Canon there is a useful hack whereby you remove the red plastic cover that sits in front of the LEDs, increasing the brightness (the cover is replaceable if you do this carefully, I didn't!) The light still comes out red so I don't really know what the cover does.

  • \$\begingroup\$ Didn't know about the hack, thanks! \$\endgroup\$
    – dpollitt
    Sep 4, 2012 at 18:10

After all the theory is gone through I almost always find that going out and "playing" with a camera is the best way to come to grips with reality. However ...

What camera are you using?
Many higher end models have a focus assist lamp built in and/or can use the flash for focus assist. Your camera may already have that capability without you being aware of it.

You can get excellent results using a 'flashlight' for focusing which is removed after focusing and before the photo is taken. If you have three or more arms or are especially adept at doing N things at once you can operate the focus-flashlight yourself, but having an assistant do this can be 'very useful'. The subjects (here bride and groom) need to have the what and why of the flashlight explained so they do not react adversely.

A video light or similar "lighting bank" or photofloods can be useful but to get the sort of signal to noise ratio that a wedding usually demands you may want higher light levels than a video light may be able to provide over the whole scene. See comments at end re power needed for a given lighting level from a "video light".

A flash of suitably high guide number will usually illuminate up to a moderately large group of people relatively well. Anything with a guide number of 50 up will be about as powerful as you reasonably need and lower guide numbers (say 30+) will be good enough for most situations.

"Video light" illumination levels:

Whether a video light or similar portable "lighting bank" is useful to get the sort of signal to noise ratio that a wedding usually demands depends on the performance of your camera at higher ISO settings, the area that you wish to illuminate and the Wattage of light that you are prepared to use.

Modern LED white light sources are potentially capable of over 100 lumens per watt (with the top LEDs now exceeding 150 l/W) but the overall output of packaged units after reflectors, diffusers and lens/glass is accounted for is usually under 100 l/W. I've used 75 l/W in the formula below. Acceptable light levels depend on camera and context. I've used 300 lux = 300 lumen/Watt as an acceptable level. 300 lux is "nice and bright" to the eye but only a very small fraction of daylight (full midday sun = 100,000 lux.) You will need to make your own decisions about what light levels allow suitable quality.

  • Back of mental envelope: 300 lux = 300 Ev.
    As modern cameras resolve about 0.1 Ev, at full sensitivity 300 lux = 3000 x 1 bit level = 11+ bits of dynamic range available. 12 bits = 4096, 14 bits = 16386. ie you arguably need around 2000 lux to allow a modern good quality sensor full 14 bit dynamic range. In practice it would probably be more like 10,000 lux. Below that level you can still get good picture quality but you will lack dynamic range.

Based on 75 l/W,
Lux ~= Watts x 75/square_meters_illuminated for LED based lighting.
For eg 300 lux you want
Watts = 300 x m^2/75 = 4W/m^2
or about 4 Watts per square metre illuminated.
No assumption or allowance made for reflectance losses etc.

ie not many Watts at all are needed for smaller areas - 10 Watts of LED lighting should be ample for the couple only, but
if you want say a 10 foot x 10 foot area or about 10 square metres you want about 40 Watts of LED lighting to get 300 lux iullumination. That's entirely doable BUT many LED video lights would be well below 40 Watts.

Recommended Lighting levels:

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Maybe a cultural difference but I would never walk around at a wedding shining a flashlight in people's faces! \$\endgroup\$
    – Matt Grum
    Sep 4, 2012 at 16:18
  • \$\begingroup\$ @MattGrum - Break the mold. Being on the receiving end of a GN50+ flash can be brutal. The focus lamp on my A77 is not expecially nice. The one on my D700 approaches a light sabre in intensity. Compared to that the sensible & sensitive use of a flashlight may be vastly superior. Who said anything about faces? (Although, that too mayb e apposite.) As I said "The subjects (here bride and groom) need to have the what and why of the flashlight explained so they do not react adversely." Each situation needs dealing with on its merits. ...> \$\endgroup\$ Sep 4, 2012 at 17:25
  • \$\begingroup\$ @MattGrum - The D700 may well take quite good photos in light below where the eye is comfortable, depending on what exposure times are acceptable BUT it will certainly not focus at the bottom end of its range without some form of focus assist. A flashlight is liable to be more acceptable than the on-camera light sabre in such cases. I have had a D700 for about a week and am still geeting used to what it can reasonably do but already a good party trick is to photograph people in a close to dark room at hi ISO and show them the image. It can see better than I can. But, not focus. \$\endgroup\$ Sep 4, 2012 at 17:28
  • \$\begingroup\$ I don't advise shooting a GN50 flash at people directly, nor do I advise using the onboard flash as an AF assist light. I'm suggesting a hotshoe flash that puts out a brief red cross pattern and a bounced heavily diffused flash (doesn't have to be full power either). \$\endgroup\$
    – Matt Grum
    Sep 5, 2012 at 7:17
  • \$\begingroup\$ Perhaps the anonymous downvoter thought that what Matt said he did not recommend was, somehow, what I did. Whatever. FWIW - regardless of the "not helpful" rating, the use of a flashlight or equivalent, when appropriate (as I noted) is an extremely useful idea and often superior to about any other fully-dark-scene alternative. Maybe the downvoter can learn something from this. Maybe not :-). \$\endgroup\$ Sep 7, 2012 at 0:37

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