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enter image description hereI am new to photography and have been struggling with low light scenarios. I have a Nikon D3100 and an SB-900 flash. Regardless of my ISO, aperture, or shutter speed settings, when I am photographing inside a church (common setting for me as we hold scouting events there), my pictures are just not as exposed and briliant as I want them to be.

I just purchased the Nikon 35mm f/1.8 lens hoping this will help with indoor low light shots. I like to do portrait shots as well.

Any suggestions on settings I should use? Should I use it indoors in low light with my SB-900 flash, point the flash angled toward the ceiling? Bump up ISO to 200-400?

Attached are a couple pictures from inside the church I usually shoot at for our Eagle Scout ceremonies...enter image description here

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I would see how far you can go with ambient light first, then add some flash as fill

  • Aperture - set to f/1.8
  • Shutter - set as slow as you can hand hold, 1/15 or 1/30 perhaps
  • ISO - set to get approximately the correct exposure, may have to go to 800 or higher.

This may get you there. If so you can possibly use slightly lower ISO or faster shutter.

Then I'd start to think about flash, especially if ISO 800 and 1/15th aren't quite enough (or subjects are moving and you can't go that slow). If you have done the above and ambient light is almost enough, then you just need some fill flash.

  • bounce of ceiling won't work if ceilings are high, but a good option otherwise
  • if you have high ceilings you can try walls
  • failing that, direct flash, dial down flash compensation (try -0.7 for a start) to avoid light being too harsh.

Flash will fill in some shadows and help freeze the action that might otherwise blur from your slow shutter speed. Once you've added in flash, you can think about moving ISO back down to 200-400, or if subjects are moving, you might want to move shutter speed up to 1/60 or faster.

Edit: having seen your sample image, it's not that underexposed. Judging by the people on the sides and background, who wouldn't be lit much by the flash, there is enough ambient light around. Just dial down the flash a bit if it's too harsh.

I'd suggest you get them to move together a bit, and you can crouch down. Those two things will eliminate all those heads in the background.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Thanks so much! I will be giving your advice a try this weekend. \$\endgroup\$
    – Lisa
    Feb 11, 2012 at 2:45
  • \$\begingroup\$ I wanted to add that I hadn't understood 'dialing down flash' until you mentioned it. I researched it as well as how to do it on my camera and it has made the world of difference! Thanks again! \$\endgroup\$
    – Lisa
    Feb 16, 2012 at 2:14
  • \$\begingroup\$ Good to hear, sorry about the jargon! :) \$\endgroup\$
    – MikeW
    Feb 16, 2012 at 3:41
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I think, looking at the sample images, that working at a wide open aperture like f/1.8 is asking for trouble. Both groups were spaced out front to back, with the group in the first image in two rows, the second in at least three rows.

Remember, depth-of-field is a function of your aperture. You can experiment with your settings or try an Depth of Field Calculator for a better idea. Here's the deal: If you are standing 10 feet away, at f/1.8, you will have a depth-of-field of less than a foot. Think about it this way: If you autofocus and it nails the exposure on somebody's nose, the last thing that will be in focus will be the back of their head. The next row of people will be out of focus. The closer in you move, the shallower your DOF will be.

So I think using a super wide aperture on a group is unlikely to provide the results you want. If you stop the lens down to f/8 (again assuming you are about 10 feet away), and focus on something about 1/3 of the way behind the frontmost subject, you can increase your DOF to a bit over 3 feet. The point are these:

  • Stop down and add light until you can achieve an acceptable shutter speed (more on this later)
  • Cluster your people in tight for the shot. Really have them pack in or some will be out of focus
  • Hope your autofocus picks a spot that's someplace behind the nearest target

In terms of the shutter speed you use, there is a hackneyed phrase that goes something like "the chances of getting shot where a person didn't blink is inversely proportional to the square of the number of people in the shot". Really, you will have to toss a lot of images because of focus issues even if you use a small aperture like f/8 or f/16 -- but opening up much more is tempting fate.

See what you can do with your SB900s to spread the light around. Set your camera on M and choose 1/250th at f/8. SB900s are pretty capable. See what happens.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Wow, thanks so much for the great advice! I have learned so much in just this one posting of my question! \$\endgroup\$
    – Lisa
    Feb 11, 2012 at 23:26
  • \$\begingroup\$ You'll want to read the update. I meant set your camera on M and choose 1/250th at f/8. I inadvertently dropped the zero, in the 1/250th, which would have made for a very slow shutter speed. Oops. \$\endgroup\$
    – Steve Ross
    Feb 12, 2012 at 0:22
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Well, first off, I would bump ISO much more. When it comes to ISO, there are trade-offs, however one of the worst ones to make is not bumping it up enough! Exposure is a factor of three primary variables, and ISO is just as important as the other two (shutter and aperture.) The consequences of not using enough ISO quite often result in a noisier photo, as you usually have to increase exposure using post-processing, which can enhance noise more than boosting ISO.

You should always aim to expose correctly, regardless of what settings you need to adjust to do so. Generally speaking, you should aim to get as much light down the lens as you can. Increased ambient lighting, flash, opening windows/doors to let in more natural light, etc. can all assist in that endeavor. Sometimes its just not possible to produce enough light, or light of the necessary quality and angles. If you are shooting indoors, don't have an ultra fast lens (i.e. f/2.8 is your maximum aperture) but need one, need to use a narrower aperture than is ideal for deeper DOF, have to use a longer shutter speed to minimize motion blur or camera shake, etc., then increase ISO. You'll generally see some increased noise, simply as a matter of the physical properties of light. But the alternative is to underexpose your photos, which diminishes saturation and contrast, and ultimately leads to higher noise in an exposure-corrected image (sometimes a LOT higher.)

Use ISO 200, 400, 1600 or even 6400 if you have the option, if thats what it takes to get a correct exposure in-camera. If you can, try to expose to the right (ETTR), a technique where you shift the in-camera histogram of your photos as far to the right as you can to maximize the amount of light captured. When using ETTR, make certain you are not clipping your highlights (most modern digital cameras have an option to blink clipped highlights when previewing images). You can correct any overexposure down in post-processing, which can often reduce the amount of visible noise that may be caused by a higher ISO.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Thanks so much, I plan to give all of this advice a try this weekend as this problem in low light conditions is driving me crazy! \$\endgroup\$
    – Lisa
    Feb 11, 2012 at 2:46
  • \$\begingroup\$ Hi Lisa. Now that you have included a sample shot, I don't know that you really have an exposure problem. I think you have more of a lighting problem. You seem to have plenty of light, its just the quality of that light that can probably be improved. You might want to look into composition as well, see if there are any tips that will help you isolate your subjects better, frame them better, etc. \$\endgroup\$
    – jrista
    Feb 11, 2012 at 4:14
  • \$\begingroup\$ Thanks, I agree, the lighting is what is driving me crazy. I took a family shot in another room where there was better lighting and like it much better. I will try posting the one taken in another room where there was better lighting. \$\endgroup\$
    – Lisa
    Feb 11, 2012 at 4:54
  • \$\begingroup\$ @Lisa: You should look through our tags for lighting and related. There are quite a few questions here with superb answers about how to use lighting, both flash and continuous, more effectively. \$\endgroup\$
    – jrista
    Feb 11, 2012 at 5:38
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The exposure looks right on your example. If you have a problem, I think its probably that its a little 'flat'. Your image lacks depth either through significant subject isolation or better lighting.

It looks like your flash was aimed directed at the subject. You effectively filled in all the shadows and filled in took much. If your ceilings are low enough, try 'bouncing' the flash. If they're not, I'd either look into some off-camera flash gear or go without the flash.

You obviously intended the subjects to be the people, but you have a rather busy background. Try a lower f-stop number (larger aperture) to blur the background more and just capture your subject better. There are times for environmental portraits - this doesn't look like one of them.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Thank you. The first picture I posted (all the heads in the background) was to show the lighting in the room and yes the 'flat' effect I am getting. This was not a 'portrait but rather a 'snapshot' of them walking that the mother wanted. I agree, I needed to frame them better. I did use flash aimed directly at the subject. After reading your comments I am now curious if I could simply not use my flash (SB-900), it seems the pictures were really dark without it but perhaps I simply wasn't going low enough with my f-stop and high enough with the ISO? \$\endgroup\$
    – Lisa
    Feb 11, 2012 at 5:21
  • \$\begingroup\$ @Lisa (I have a D3100 too) - I'd do these things. Turn your camera to 'A' mode, put your flash on, but direct it to bounce off a ceiling or wall (its much more diffuse light that way), and set your camera to a low f-stop - somehwere around 2.5-2.8 for multiple people like you have. The camera will determine the right ISO for exposure. \$\endgroup\$
    – rfusca
    Feb 11, 2012 at 14:10
  • \$\begingroup\$ I love this website! Thanks so much, I can't wait to try the suggestions to see if it helps! I do fine outdoors in natural lighting and most of the time indoors too, this church causes me problems with the lighting every time! \$\endgroup\$
    – Lisa
    Feb 11, 2012 at 14:46
  • \$\begingroup\$ I appreciate everyone's feedback! All of this information prompted me to look at some additional settings on my camera such as the white balance and a few others. It definately has made the difference! When shooting portraits, should I use my 35mm f/1.8 lens, the kit lens 55-200 4.5 or the 55-300 lens I have? Those are the three I have. \$\endgroup\$
    – Lisa
    Feb 13, 2012 at 13:38
  • \$\begingroup\$ @Lisa 35mm most likely. \$\endgroup\$
    – rfusca
    Feb 13, 2012 at 14:27

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