As far as I can tell, Capture One doesn't have the option to export an image as a progressive jpeg. To get a progressive image, I've been compressing once on export, and compressing again on the conversion to a progressive jpeg. Is there any way to export from Capture One and then create a progressive jpeg without compressing the image twice? Is there an intermediate software that might help?
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You ought to be able to export from Capture One in a lossless format like PNG or TIFF, then perform the JPEG compression of that lossless file once, and once only, with whatever settings you like from your choice of conversion/compression software - almost everything recent should be able to handle both PNG and TIFF as a source format.
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\$\begingroup\$ Capture One File formats for processing and export \$\endgroup\$– Peter MCommented Jan 26, 2021 at 19:12
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\$\begingroup\$ The question states, "... without compressing the image twice?" PNG and TIFF are usually compressed. \$\endgroup\$– xiotaCommented Jan 27, 2021 at 0:19
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2\$\begingroup\$ @xiota The question also seems to be based on an assumption that all compression is lossy. When one does lossless compression with a TIFF or PNG, it's "decompressed" to the original, uncompressed state before being exported as a compressed JPEG. So practically speaking, the resulting JPEG IS only compressed once. The actual information from which the JPEG is produced is uncompressed. \$\endgroup\$ Commented Jan 27, 2021 at 3:01
Capture One does not appear to have the ability to export to progressive JPEG directly. The programmers have done the "right thing" by not giving users the option to easily create progressive JPGs.
Although progressive JPGs are slightly smaller (about 1%), they are significantly slower to create and display. Modern browsers, viewers, and editors also do not display progressive JPGs progressively. So there is little benefit to using progressive JPEG at all.
While you could export to an intermediate format, which you later convert to progressive JPEG, most image formats are compressed, so exporting to an image then converting to JPG would in most cases result in compressing the image at least twice. While you may not lose any image data, the process does waste time in return for little benefit. This is especially true for PNG, which can be very slow to save.
TIFF images can be saved uncompressed, but the files are very large, so it can still take a significant amount of time to save, even though the compression step is skipped.
Unless you have a very good reason to use progressive JPEG, you should just export directly to JPEG from Capture One.
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\$\begingroup\$ I'm under the impression that most browsers do handle progressive jpg (at least some cursory google searches lead me to believe that, e.g. thewebmaster.com/dev/2016/feb/10/…). Is that not the case? \$\endgroup\$– zliCommented Jan 27, 2021 at 5:41
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\$\begingroup\$ or for example en.wikipedia.org/wiki/… \$\endgroup\$– zliCommented Jan 27, 2021 at 5:48
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1\$\begingroup\$ Firefox and Chrome don't display images progressively on my computers. The only progressive JPG demos I can find right now are cgi scripts or animated gifs (simulating the effect). When I load a confirmed progressive JPG, there is a delay, then the image appears all at once. Rather than progressive vs nonprogressive, you should focus on optimizing files for their intended purpose. For websites, you can use a JPEG minimizer. The one I use generates progressive JPEGs by default. \$\endgroup\$– xiotaCommented Jan 27, 2021 at 6:24
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\$\begingroup\$ interesting... it's misleading that support for progressive jpegs != loading the images in a progressive way. what's your recommended way of jpeg optimization or minimizing? \$\endgroup\$– zliCommented Jan 27, 2021 at 8:22
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\$\begingroup\$ I think half the point these days is that our connections are generally so fast we'd never be able to tell the difference. Webmasters.SE had a similar discussion a decade ago - webmasters.stackexchange.com/questions/574/… \$\endgroup\$– TetsujinCommented Jan 27, 2021 at 9:44