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I recently purchased a Mamiya 645AFD from eBay with two Mamiya 645 lenses (AF 80mm f2.8 (serial number AC1182) and AF 45mm f/2.8 (serial number TB1122)). After a bit of testing I'm facing a problem quite consistently with the 45mm lens. When I connect it to the body it makes a strange noise from the motor. When I press the shutter release it does not take a photo but instead displays "Err 02" on the camera.

I have checked the contacts which look clean, put brand new batteries, and most importantly when I put the other lens the camera operates normally without a problem. Strangely, the auto-focus works so the electrical connection is there. What could be wrong, and what are my options? (from New Zealand)

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One important update: I went to see a camera shop and although they were not able to conclude much, they did point out that looking through the lens the aperture appears asymmetric, suggesting that this is the bit that's off – perhaps mechanically, or its electrical wiring.

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    Although people may be able to guess, it would be better to explicitly state the exact lenses you have (maker, model) so they know those are not potential issues.
    – StephenG
    Jun 20 '20 at 5:32
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    @StephenG thanks – I've added the info (these are the standard Mamiya AF lenses from that period, I believe).
    – baptiste
    Jun 20 '20 at 6:56
  • What happens without a lens?
    – wilkgr
    Jun 22 '20 at 10:19
  • @wilkgr The shutter and everything works fine. I got to try a third lens and again everything works correctly. It's the one lens, which makes a strange screeching noise when I connect it, and then again the same noise when I release the shutter. It does auto-focus though.
    – baptiste
    Jun 22 '20 at 19:57
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    The sound seems to come from the lens though it is a bit hard to tell. The sound is the same when I press the shutter, but not when focusing (focusing seems fine). The bad sound also appears when pressing the depth of field preview button. One important update: I went to see a camera shop and although they were not able to conclude much, they did point out that looking through the lens the aperture appears asymmetric, suggesting that this is the bit that's off – perhaps mechanically, or its electrical wiring.
    – baptiste
    Jun 23 '20 at 0:47
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Research reveals that the error code 02 is a common one, and that Mamiya error codes don't reveal much detail. Advice ranges from reinserting batteries and checking they are charged, to making sure to turn on the digital back previously. However, as the other lenses work, it is clearly not user error.

I found that the protocol between the camera and the back is based on SPI (source). As the camera back and the lens mount have the same number of pins, it is not unreasonable to assume that they didn't mix-and-match protocols.

If you have an logic analyzer or similar on hand, you could capture and analyse the communication between the camera and the lens. However, this likely won't give you much more additional information though - the error code 02 is likely an unspecified lens error or similar. If you do decide to try this route, the easiest thing is to get a lens adapter or teleconverter, partially disassembling (depending on product) and then solder wires to that rather than attempting to use alligator pins on the camera's pogo pins. While you could use an Arduino for this, I strongly recommend against it and would suggest using a USB logic analyzer instead.

It's most likely the aperture, due to two reasons - the camera shop's notice, and the fact that the sound happens when pressing the depth of field preview button. You could verify this by holding the depth of field preview button while changing the aperture.

The most reasonable advice would be to try to get your money back for the lens. Failing that, you could attempt to take the lens apart and check if the mechanics or something appear to be damaged. I do not recommend this though, as reassembly can be difficult, the odds of actually finding the issue is low for the untrained eye and you are likely to introduce dust or other foreign objects into the lens.

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    Thanks for the thorough and sound advice. Thankfully the vendor finally got back to me and will take it back. I came to similar conclusions – that the aperture mechanism/wiring is faulty, and that taking the lens apart would be rather desperate without the right tools to re-adjust it, even assuming I found the problem inside. Hope this thread helps future viewers puzzled by the fairly useless "Err 02" message.
    – baptiste
    Jun 24 '20 at 20:17
  • @baptiste that's good to hear. Taking the lens apart would be more about learning about lenses than fixing it haha
    – wilkgr
    Jun 24 '20 at 22:11
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If the camera works fine with two other lenses and when no lens is attached, then it's pretty obviously the single 45mm lens that is creating the problem. Based on your description alone, it seems the aperture mechanism may be malfunctioning in some way.

I'd contact the seller from whom you bought the camera and lenses and see what they might have to say. If this has been occurring since you first tried the lens on the camera, chances are pretty good it was also doing it before they sent it to you. The only other possible explanation could be that it may have been damaged in shipping. Where the packing materials in which it was shipped damaged?

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