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Regarding this picture, how is it possible to get such a white balance (13750), because when looking at the Exif metadata, this color temperature is so warm. How is it possible? This is a raw file and if I take a similar picture I can't get a similar color temperature if I move the slide until 13750.

Any idea?

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  • There is no industrial standard reference for correct white balance metadata. Every camera and software calibrate their own white balance number. – mootmoot Jun 28 at 15:38
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    Are you talking about this image as a whole or specifically the sunset upper left or maybe just the portrait? The number (13750) doesn't mean much here. Please be specific about which image you are attempting to copy in tone. – Hueco Jun 28 at 15:42
  • Hi, I'm talking about the whole image. – Arizona85 Jun 29 at 5:54
  • What makes you say that the color temperature is 13750 (presumably, Kelvin)? – mattdm Jul 2 at 16:30
  • How are you lighting the image you are taking a picture of to emulate this? – mattdm Jul 2 at 17:47
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I suspect in your case what has gone wrong is the detection of what was white in the image: I think the big chunk of blue sky in the top-left has fooled something into thinking that this was white, and deciding that the colour temperature was that of the sky (which is not a very good black body in the first place, but in so far as it is has a very high colour temperature).


A digression on the physics of colour temperature.

The 'colour temperature' of something refers to the colour of an ideal black body at that temperature would have. This colour in turn depends on the spectrum of the black body, which is given by Planck's law. For a body at 5600K this looks like this, for instance:

5600K black body spectrum

This spectrum will be perceived by humans as very close to white, as the Sun is at about 5600K (note that our eyes can't perceive some of the lower & higher frequencies in this spectrum (IR & UV), and the spectrum which makes it through the atmosphere is somewhat different than this (and indeed the Sun is not an ideal black body and has spectral lines &c &c).

Black bodies which are hotter are bluer, and ones which are cooler are redder: here are spectra for 5600K and 13750K (note these have been scaled to be approximately the same height: in real life an object heated to 13750K is a lot brighter than the same object at 5600K!):

black body, 5600K & 13750K

So, OK, so much for black bodies.

There is a subtlety with colour temperature: our eyes don't see the full colour spectrum, but rather take three overlapping samples of it. This means that spectra which are not at all like a black body spectrum can still look to us indistinguishable from one: so long as the light triggers the same response in our eyes, we can't tell. So things like 'white' LEDs don't have spectra which are very like black body spectra at all, but we see them as white (and there is yet a further subtlety here: even though we see the LED as 'white', if its light reflects from something coloured, we may see that as a very different colour than we do under a real black body 'white' source like the Sun or a tungsten light.

So what the colour temperature of an image means, really, is what colour temperature light it was illuminated by: knowing this you can correct the colours in the image so they look right. To know this anything that wants to assign a colour temperature needs to know three things:

  • what objects in the image are white;
  • and that the light source was something like a black body, so it had a well-defined colour temperature;
  • that there was only one light source rather than two with different colour temperatures.

And this has to be guessed, again, from only three channels of information which can be fooled in various ways (and which are not completely the same as what our eyes see). Unsurprisingly this often doesn't work very well, even when it makes sense (ie even when there is a well-defined colour temperature at all).

  • 5600K is the spectrum that makes it through the atmosphere when the sun is fairly high in the sky. In outer space, the sun is centered on about 5900K – Michael C Jun 28 at 23:10
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to get a picture with the same colors and temperature, you have to use more than the white balance, you have also to turn down picture's contrast, and color saturation.

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