I am using a Nikon P900 and although I love the camera the image quality is not always as sharp as it could be. Also it is just 3 years old and is falling to bits although i do use it daily. As most of what I photograph are bif and in the distance PLEASE recommend your thoughts on what I should buy. I have tried the Panasonic G9 with the sigma 60-400 lens and to be honest, there was no difference in quality, yet with a price difference of £2000 I would have expected to notice something, although that could have been me. I welcome suggestions especially from anyone using a Nikon D500 with a 200-400 lens, Which I hope will make my photos sharper. I enclose a photo
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6The photo was taken with the P900? Cropped? Settings?– xiotaJun 1, 2019 at 15:52
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While it is true that better gear won't make you a better photographer, it is equally true that any photographer is limited by the capabilities of the gear being used.
There's an old saying that has been around photography for a very long time:
Gear doesn't matter.
It's certainly true, but it is only half the truth. The rest of the truth is this:
Gear doesn't matter - until it does.
When the technical capabilities of your gear are not up to the task for the shots you want to capture, then and only then will the gear matter.
When your gear does matter, you'll know. It will matter because the gear you are using will limit you from doing work that you wish to do and that you have the skill and knowledge to pull off. Until you reach that point, the gear you are currently using is perfectly fine for you.
In the end, gear with higher capabilities can certainly help. But a better camera won't make you a better photographer. It will just allow you to use more of the skill, knowledge, and experience you've picked up along the way. Part of that experience and knowledge contributes to the ability to pick the best tool for the job from among the options one has available.
For more, please see: When should I upgrade my camera body? The answer there is just as equally applicable to lenses or entire systems.
I understand what you are saying ~ thank you. The picture I have posted is good but not good enough. The wings of the butterfly are not sharp, nor are the antenna. It also appears to have a little too much contrast that I am unable to edit out.
You'll likely gain more by improving your technique than by buying different gear that will still not give the results you want until you improve your technique. Only when your technique exceeds the limits of the current gear will better gear give you better results. If your current results are at the true limits of that camera/lens, then by all means go for a better lens and camera (in that order). But I bet there are better results that have been shot with the P900 under similar conditions.
In the case of the example photo, the main reason the butterfly is not sharper is because the center of focus was slightly behind the bird. Look how much sharper the thorny vine the bird is perched upon is behind the bird than it is in front of the bird!
That's a technique issue: knowing how to tell the camera to focus on what you want instead of what the camera thinks you want. Your lens was sharp enough, it just wasn't focused on what you wanted.
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I understand what you are saying ~ thank you. The picture I have posted is good but not good enough. The wings of the butterfly are not sharp, nor are the antenna. It also appears to have a little too much contrast that I am unable to edit out. So in a filed which is full of "the best" and so many varying reviews, I want to ask people who know and gain from their experience. You never learn if you dont ask. Jun 1, 2019 at 11:46
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You'll likely gain more by improving your technique than by buying different gear that will still not give the results you want until you improve your technique. Only when your technique exceeds the limits of the current gear will better gear give you better results. If your current results are at the true limits of that camera/lens, then by all means go for a better lens and camera (in that order). But I bet there are better results that have been shot with the P900 under similar conditions. Jun 2, 2019 at 18:45
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In the case of the example photo, the main reason the butterfly is not sharper is because the center of focus was slightly behind the bird. Look how much sharper the thorny vine the bird is perched upon is behind the bird than it is in front of the bird. That's technique: knowing how to tell the camera to focus on what you want instead of what the camera thinks you want. Jun 2, 2019 at 18:53
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Maybe focus miss but maybe also subject movement and inadequate shutter speed — bird with moth in beak isn't necessarily frozen in a pose for your convenience.– mattdmJun 3, 2019 at 4:17
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@mattdm Which are all technique unless the limits of the camera have been reached. The focus miss is the most obvious technique issue here, though. Jun 3, 2019 at 17:04
For the most part, cameras do not affect sharpness - lenses do.
The longer your focal length and the larger the aperture, the thinner your focal plane. You are already using lenses at the long end. Use a smaller aperture and you will get more 'stuff' in focus.
However, motion can cause blur. If the moth was moving, a faster shutter would freeze that motion. A larger aperture or a higher ISO would lead to a faster shutter speed.
(I did say for the most part: In the case of motion, a camera capable of higher ISO levels could theoretically help you here, but it looks like you have plenty of light, so I doubt it would help you.)
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2For the most part, cameras do not affect sharpness - lenses do: The AF accuracy (which is in the camera) make a difference. My Sigma 120-400 improved a lot when I moved from a 450D to a 70D.– xenoidJun 1, 2019 at 21:12
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@xenoid That could be because the specific 70D matched up better manufacturing tolerance-wise than the 450D did with that specific lens. It does help that the 70D allows AFMA to offset any differences, something the 450D does not. Jun 2, 2019 at 18:41
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@MichaelC Better results with my other lenses as well (even if a tad less noticeable).– xenoidJun 2, 2019 at 18:44
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The 70D has the same AF system as the original 7D, which was not noted for consistent shot-to-shot AF accuracy. But then, neither were the Rebels in the late 2000s. The 7D tended to jitter a bit between frames. It is certainly more configurable, though. Jun 2, 2019 at 18:50
Unfortunately the EXIF data had completely been stripped from that image but its size is about 16MP, likely the camera size. The quality at the pixel level is really really bad, suggesting that you have used very high ISO levels and/or digital zoom, making the camera guess much of the information it put into individual pixels.
An obvious daylight scene should not require such high ISO, and a P900 should leave little enough incentive to revert to digital zoom. The large amount of bokeh for a small-sensor camera (which is not even particularly fast at long reach) suggests that you are using significant zoom here: that may give the image stabilisation a run for its money and/or their might be atmospheric distortion affecting the image.
That very much suggests that you are not making best use of your equipment here (even though the P900 is a small-sensor camera) and changing equipment would be a shot in the dark and with dubious chances of success. In particular, the combination of a long lens (2000mm equivalent) and high pixel pitch (16MP at 1/2.3") makes for a completely different approach to your subjects: with the P900 you can try capturing wildlife from a distance. This kind of hyperzoom range and pixel count is not there for larger sensors after cropping. You need to get significantly closer to your subjects, to a distance where the P900 would also deliver quite nicer photographs but with much larger depth of field and with much of its lens' weight (and long-range optimisation) wasted.
The conditions you used the P900 in will not work for a 200-400 lens: you'll get a sharp image maybe at postcard size (if even that) after cropping. And practising to get closer will also yield better results with the P900. This camera is great in the "get a shot at all" department but even with this camera, it remains an emergency measure.
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I couldnt have got any closer without standing on it. I was under 3 mts away. I took it on bird photography setting which I now realise uses a 400 iso. I have now reverted back to manual settings to try to get a better shot. Although, shots like this one dont cme along too often. Jun 3, 2019 at 18:02