I'm looking for super wide angle lenses, ideally 50mm and below. I'm only interested about decent rise/fall movements because I do mostly architecture, and I'd like to be very close to the subject.

However, I cannot find suitable lenses for it. Meaning, super wide angle lenses IC is usually around 160mm.

Is there a viable alternative that would allow me to do rise/fall movements?

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    The problem with using ultra wide lenses with perspective correcting movements is that the geometric distortion of the UWA lens is so pronounced that the correction of perspective distortion is wasted. So what's the point? – Michael C Feb 19 '19 at 9:20
  • This question seems very odd to me. What is "4x5 movements"? "wide angle lenses IC" - what does IC stand here for? – Rekin Feb 19 '19 at 11:42
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    @Rekin I assume that "4x5 movements" means he's using a 4x5 camera body, so needs a shift lens with a large enough image circle to be useful on a 4x5 sensor/film. The giveaway is "super wide angle lenses, ideally 50mm and below". 50mm is only 'super wide' if the film size is quite large, such as 4x5. And by "IC", he means image circle. – scottbb Feb 19 '19 at 18:55
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    @Rekin IC would be shorthand for Image Circle in this context – Patrick Hughes Feb 19 '19 at 20:35

Ultrawide lenses tend to have lots of problems with geometric distortion. Shift movements away from the center of the image circle can only make geometric distortion worse.

With so much geometric distortion, what would be the point of doing shift movements to alleviate perspective distortion?


They don't exist. They can't exist, really. 120 degrees is about as far as rectilinear designs seem to go.

If you wanted that Super Angulon 47XL to cover more than 166mm it'd have to be wider than 120 degrees.

Shift is identical to off-center cropping.

But somehow people understand "cropping narrows your field of view" better than they understand "shooting a lens on a format small enough to permit shift narrows your field of view"

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