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So, when taking a photo of the stars, I've generally taken photos at about ISO 3200, 20 seconds, f/3.5. I subsequently stack about 5 of them to get rid of the noise, which seems to work relatively well, however my Milkyway shots are nowhere near as clear (no distinct dust clouds) or vibrant (can't see red H-alpha emission even with the red saturation at max) as others.

First question: If I stack 5 photos at ISO 3200, the brightness of the image should be the same as a stack of 10 images at ISO 1600 right?

Second question: Assuming I do 10 images at ISO 1600, would it have a greater contrast/saturation/dynamic range, than the first situation?

Third question: Taking a photo at ISO 200, the image will be more-or-less black, but if I stack 80 of these, will I get the same exposure as the first situation or is there a limit to how far I can push it (for example 160 images at ISO 100)?

Fourth question: Negating the star trails formed (let's say I have a star tracker mounted), would the first situation of x5 ISO 3200, 20 secs etc. give more or less contrast/saturation/dynamic range (and sharpness!) than a single ISO 3200 at 100 seconds?

Thanks if you answer this, I'm quite new to astrophotography and from what I've gathered my assumptions are correct, but I want to be sure because most places don't address these issues specifically.

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    Each of these questions have individually been asked and answered here before. What has your search of the existing question base revealed about these topics? The Stack exchange format works best when each question concerns a single question. Thanks!
    – Michael C
    Dec 26, 2018 at 22:43

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OK - first, the H-alpha issue:

DSLRs incorporate an Infra-red blocking filter, so that the colours come out correctly for normal shots, without being affected by infrared wavelengths. Unfortunately, the normal filters used for this in DSLRs also block about 80% or so of the deep red hydrogen alpha light.

Most of the astrophoto images you see with a lot of h-alpha red in them have been taken either with modified DSLRs (where the IR blocking filter has been replaced with one that passes h-alpha) or dedicated monochrome astro cameras used with filters (a different filter for each colour channel - either R G B (for normal colour images) or narrowband (typically h-alpha, oIII and sII) filters for emission nebulae, with an optional extra luminance image). There are also a couple of DSLR models intended for astrophotographers that have h-alpha friendly filters already installed in place of the usual ones. (Downside of these and the modified DSLRs is that it throws the colour balance off for normal photography, though you can largely compensate by using a custom colour balance - or fully compensate with the equivalent of the original filter).

So, with an unmodified DSLR that's blocking about 80% of the H-alpha, you're not going to see anywhere near as much h-alpha red as you will from a modified or mono camera.

Now onto stacking:

You seem to be misunderstanding what stacking does. It's not about increasing the effective exposure - it's all about reducing noise.

An astrophoto image consists of the wanted signal, plus unwanted noise. Since the noise is generally random + or -, if you stack (basically average) a lot of images, the random noise gets reduced (by a factor depending on the square root of the number of images combined - so 4 images will halve the noise, 16 will quarter it, 64 will reduce it to an eighth and so on.

(There are also time dependant errors - that's what "dark" and "bias" frames are used to compensate for).

Note that what you get out of the stacking process is NOT a brighter image - it's a less noisy one. What that means is that you can then stretch the (brightness range of the) image more in post processing before the remaining noise becomes a problem.

So for your first question, NO - if you're using the same exposure time for the sub images, the ISO 3200 subimages will be twice as bright as the ISO 1600 ones (as you'd expect). When you stack them, the brightness of the result will still be about the same as the sub images - so the ISO3200 one will be twice as bright as the ISO 1600 one - but the noise level will have gone down more compared to the originals in the ISO 1600 result, since you're stacking more images (9 would give you 1/3 the noise, compared to 1/2 the noise with 4).

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  • Wow thanks for your in-depth answer. And regarding the saturation, contrast, and sharpness of the stack, is it all noise-dependant? So no matter what ISO I choose, assuming I stack enough of each to get similar amounts of noise using the square root rule, they should both be similar? Likewise with the star tracker?
    – adam
    Dec 27, 2018 at 23:10

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