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I noticed that when looking at small items in close distance, minimum focusing distance for eye seems to be about 15cm (6") - closer than that, vision promptly gets blurrier instead of seeing more details.

So how can I see a sharp image on focusing screen through viewfinder, which is perhaps a couple of centimeters (less than an inch) from my eye? Am I really looking at the image projected on focusing screen, or are there some optical tricks used to create a larger false image further away?

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  • \$\begingroup\$ What lens/body are you using? And you're saying that your head/eye is about 15cm away from the camera/viewfinder? What Matt Grum is referring to is the viewfinder diopter \$\endgroup\$
    – BBking
    Commented Oct 23, 2012 at 11:26
  • \$\begingroup\$ @BBking what Imre is saying is usually he is unable to focus on objects closer than 15cm, however the focus screen in an SLR is much closer than 15cm, so how can his eyes focus on that? \$\endgroup\$
    – Matt Grum
    Commented Oct 23, 2012 at 11:38
  • \$\begingroup\$ @BBKing the 15cm referred to other stuff I might lift near my face, e.g. a watch, or a book. I don't think body and lenses make a big difference regarding this question. \$\endgroup\$
    – Imre
    Commented Oct 23, 2012 at 11:38
  • \$\begingroup\$ It might be worth noting that this question is primarily aimed at SLR / DSLR cameras (Lens, mirror, focus screen and eye-piece) it is not applicable to "rangefinder" style cameras (the viewfinder is a separate optical lens) - However it IS applicable to cameras with Electronic viewfinders, which replace the focus screen with a small LCD/OLED screen. \$\endgroup\$ Commented Oct 23, 2012 at 12:27
  • \$\begingroup\$ @Imre well, I see now. I couldn't figure out if you were still looking through the viewfinder (at a distance within 1cm) and couldn't focus on anthing less than 15cm (as a working distance) through the lens. So yes, there are optical elements within the viewfinder. Notice how the human eye can not see what the sensor would? Take the lens off and look through it (at the distance where the sensor would be)? So there must be optical elements within the viewfinder/prism. Darkcat Studios, now that I understand fully, it kinda does apply to a rangefinder. It's still within 1cm, right? \$\endgroup\$
    – BBking
    Commented Oct 23, 2012 at 12:47

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Inside the viewfinder is a convex lens which enables your eye to focus on the screen. This works in exactly the same way as convex lens used in a pair of glasses to correct long sightedness.

The power of this lens is usually adjustable via a small dial next to the eyepiece to account for differences in people's eyesight. Some people who wear glasses have the option of removing their glasses when shooting and relying on the viewfinder lens, whilst some leave the adjustment in the default position for someone with normal vision and wear their glasses whilst shooting.

In the latter scenario the image seen is the result of four separate optical instruments - the taking lens, viewfinder lens, eyeglasses and eye lens!

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Now that I fully understand I'll answer with some pictures.

This:

Basic cross section of traveling light

From here. Is a basic cross section of travelling light. 5 is the focusing screen (notice how it's the same distance as the sensor 4), 7 is the pentaprism and 8 is the eyepiece (basically what Matt Grum is referring to).

Here:

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From here. Shows a bit more clearly the lenses or eyepieces involved. This is what makes us able to focus at a distance within 1cm.

A quick Google Images of viewfinder construction and DSLR construction gave me those images.

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If I understand you correctly, the ability to focus on an object is generally affected by the viewer's personal eye sight condition. Some people may not be able to focus 6" or closer.

But to further the answer, you are able to see this image in focus due to the distance your eye is from the view finder. you're essentially recreating an extra point of focus in the direction of light towards your eye. This is how lenses work. By using a macro lens, you would be able to focus much closer to your subject. This is down to the way the lens is built and the distance the series of glass is situated. By keeping your eye a certain distance from the view finder you could say you are changing the ability of the lens. Of course this would never affect the image produced.

So in answer, I suppose you could call it an optical trick but really that's just how lenses work. Some more technical reading can be done here.

Hope that helps.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ I think you are missing the point that the viewfinder has a lens which allows your eye to focus on the focus screen, it has nothing to do with the main lens. \$\endgroup\$ Commented Oct 23, 2012 at 11:19

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