Timeline for Is it legal to download Darktable in European countries?
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| Aug 1, 2019 at 8:36 | vote | accept | Ryka | ||
| May 25, 2019 at 0:06 | comment | added | timvrhn | Romeo again. I refuse to believe those fines were for using P2P as that's not illegal AT ALL. Those fines must have been about the the data acquired with that sevice. You have not mentioned anything to prove your argument, at all. | |
| May 24, 2019 at 15:31 | history | edited | Romeo Ninov | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| May 24, 2019 at 14:07 | comment | added | flolilo | As stated: That's why we have lawyers and courts. I find it very hard to believe that the sentence was "use of illicit P2P software". I could be wrong of course, but I guess that at least heise/c't and/or other computer-specific news outlets would publish such cases, especially if there was an error involved. | |
| May 24, 2019 at 13:48 | comment | added | Romeo Ninov | @flolilo, I have several examples (of fines) about usage of P2P and one of them was wrong. But as you know this kind of statistic should be checked on government level. | |
| May 24, 2019 at 13:43 | comment | added | flolilo | "errors happen" - indeed. That's why we have courts and lawyers. Errors can happen to anyone at any time: You could, for example, get fined for driving too fast although you neither own a car nor have a driver's license and although never having bewn at the place of the speed trap in your while life. Does it happen often? Well, I heard of more of these cases (3) than about P2P-cases (0). Add that to the clear lack of laws that prohibit P2P usage and... | |
| May 24, 2019 at 10:16 | comment | added | timvrhn | This is blatantly false information Romeo. Yes, you can get fined for using P2P. This will ALWAYS be because of the contents of what you are downloading, and thus you may as well have downloaded the regular way. Such examples include illicitly acquired media, say movies. Fines will list exactly what has been downloaded. Using P2P is completely legal and is used in other, legal, instances instead of just downloading pirated files. You will never "accidentally" receive a fine for downloading. | |
| May 24, 2019 at 8:48 | comment | added | Chris H | @RomeoNinov that's like saying you should never travel abroad because you might be wrongly accused of espionage. | |
| May 24, 2019 at 8:45 | comment | added | Romeo Ninov | @ChrisH, errors happen. And then you should prove this is free software. It's wise to stay away from torrents/p2p. | |
| May 24, 2019 at 8:41 | comment | added | Chris H | @RomeoNinov if you think anybody in Germany gets fines for using torrent software without specific evidence that they were using it to up- or download things in violation of the relevant copyright/licensing, then your info isn't nearly as good as you think it is. There is no legal risk involved in using torrent or other p2p software to acquire software released under GPL. | |
| May 24, 2019 at 8:38 | comment | added | Romeo Ninov | @ChrisH, so do I. And have pretty good info about those things.Of course there are some details, which are more appropriate for Superuser SE | |
| May 24, 2019 at 8:35 | comment | added | Chris H | @RomeoNinov I do. You can't be fined for just "using bittorrent". | |
| May 24, 2019 at 8:23 | comment | added | Romeo Ninov | How many of downvoters work or live in Germany? | |
| May 24, 2019 at 4:25 | comment | added | Romeo Ninov | @flolilo, I explain the current situation... | |
| May 23, 2019 at 20:12 | comment | added | flolilo | Errrr....and why would they do that? There is nothing, I repeat, nothing in European or German law that prohibits you from using BitTorrent. It is, however, illegal to download pirated software - no matter whether you use P2P or not. If your P2P software uploads pirated software (which you downloaded before) while you download darktable with it, you may get fined - for uploading, not for downloading. | |
| May 23, 2019 at 15:37 | comment | added | Romeo Ninov | @PhilipKendall, I have no details how they monitor it, but fines can be something like 500 euro for downloaded movie. | |
| May 23, 2019 at 15:20 | comment | added | Romeo Ninov | Because AFAIK in Germany network traffic is monitored and maybe you will get in your mail a fine. Of course you can complain and provide evidences Debian is free software, etc. But why put yourself in troubles? | |
| May 23, 2019 at 15:14 | comment | added | Philip Kendall♦ | Why shouldn't I download Debian, which includes Darktable, via BitTorrent? (Yes, I know I'm being slightly pedantic here) | |
| May 23, 2019 at 15:05 | vote | accept | Ryka | ||
| May 25, 2019 at 11:14 | |||||
| May 23, 2019 at 13:45 | history | answered | Romeo Ninov | CC BY-SA 4.0 |