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What are the major (and perhaps more subtle) differences between the newer Micro 4/3s format in comparison to the well-established DSLR cameras? What are the pros and cons of the Micro 4/3s format, the camera body and lens capabilities and offerings, size/weight, etc.

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Looks like we have a mess here now ;) We have expanded a question with an already accepted answer and there are answers for different halves of the question now, which will most likely confuse future readers. As @jrista pointed out, I now have two answers here and do not seem to have the 'merge' privilege or simply don't know how to do it :( –  Itai Mar 15 '11 at 13:59
    
@Itai maybe the question should become "community wiki" and the accepted answer un-pinned –  thomasrutter Mar 15 '11 at 22:41
    
@Itai: There is no merge feature for answers. You just gotta do it manually. –  jrista Mar 15 '11 at 22:56
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I guess this could be made CW, since its a merger of two questions. It probably should have been CW to begin with, given the nature of the question anyway. Naysayers? –  jrista Mar 16 '11 at 2:35
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For the record, I don't think this should be CW. –  mattdm Sep 5 '11 at 2:22
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The first technical difference is the fact that the sensor is smaller than the most common DSLR sensor sizes (APS-C and larger), whilst it's going to be less optimal than an APS-C, full frame or medium format (very expensive) sensor, it's still going to be far better than compact sensors. Noise will be comparable to APS-C (1.6x), though probably not quite as good, but this is also dependent on the sensor technology.

The second technical difference is that almost all Micro 4/3rds cameras currently use an electronic viewfinder, not an optical viewfinder. This means there is no phase detect auto-focus which is much quicker than contrast based auto focus. Phase detect AF can take less than a second in good light, whereas contrast AF can typically take 3-4 seconds and most often takes this long in any conditions.

Another difference is that on a lot of Micro 4/3rds cameras, the manual controls for aperture, shutter speed and ISO aren't as accessible as an SLR camera. If you plan on shooting manual with a Micro 4/3rds camera you may have to look around for the one that won't hinder you. For example, Sony's NEX-5 (not Micro 4/3rds but similar) apparently are very fiddly and it's better to just use them in an automated mode like Program mode.

A major physical difference is the size. The camera body itself is typically no larger than a large compact. The problem with this though is that the lenses are still fairly large when it comes to portability. You probably wouldn't try putting one in your pocket unless you have both a large pocket and a very short lens attached.

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My mistake. Will correct that. –  Nick Bedford Feb 3 '11 at 20:41
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Smaller compared to what? the Micro 4:3 is actually the same size than a regular 4:3 (Panasonic and Olympus DSLR's), despite it's "micro" prefix. What is smaller is the distance from the focusing part of the lens to the sensor. –  fortran Feb 3 '11 at 21:33
    
I was mostly talking about the most frequent DSLR sensor sizes which is APS-C, DX and larger. I've edited that for clarification. –  Nick Bedford Feb 3 '11 at 22:38
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Phase-detect AF isn't necessarily linked to an optical viewfinder. See the Fujifilm F300EXR. –  mattdm Mar 15 '11 at 0:42
    
"almost all Micro 4/3rds cameras currently use an electronic viewfinder, not an optical viewfinder" You can remove the "almost". In Micro Four Thirds cameras, there is no space for a mirror. If you want a mirror and the same sensor size, then go for the Four Thirds system. Also, not that not all Micro Four Thirds do have the option to attach an electronic view finder, and only some do it have built-in. –  feklee Apr 28 '13 at 12:47
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There is a disadvantage due to the sensor size, everyone will say that. While true, it is actually quite minimal. Obviously, it varies between models but a recent m4/3 camera compares to a recent one with an APS-C within one stop in terms of noise, and it is rarely visible until ISO 800+. Here is how the differences looked last year. All these models had one successor since.

The only serious difference is actually speed. All the current m4/3 cameras use contrast-detect AF which is slower by a noticeable margin to phase-detect, which is used by DSLRs. There is a small but noticeable display lag as well because the LCD or EVF works electronically (not a the speed of light as with OVFs). With subjects that move slowly this is not a problem at all, but for action it can be.

There are obviously more differences but the remaining ones tend to be more specific to certain types of photography. Certain features are not available yet in m43 too, such as weather-sealing, sync-port, GPS, support for AAs, etc. You'll have to investigate which ones impact you depending on your photography style.

The number one advantage is reduced bulk, so a smaller and lighter total system. Micro Four-Thirds camera are smaller than DSLRs but the savings also translate to lenses. Each lens is smaller, so the size and weight you need to get a comparable feature set.

The fact that the lenses are smaller also lets them design lenses with a bigger maximum apertures. This applies to full-size Four-Thirds and Micro Four-Thirds. The best example if the two Olympus F/2 zooms, the 14-35 F/2 and 35-100 F/2. To use these on a Micro 4/3 camera you do need a small adapter.

Going back to Micro 4/3 specifically, the shorter distance of the mount to the sensor means that you can adapt much more lenses from other mounts to Micro 4/3 without losing focus at infinity. A particularly interesting adapter exists that also adds a shift or tilt mechanism between the mount and the lens (sorry, do not remember who does this).

The fact that those cameras were designed to show a live-image means that there is no cost to see a live-view compared to current DSLRs. As of today, no DSLR has a live-view that does not reduce its performance somehow (usually AF speed but Sony DSLRs compromise VF coverage instead). This is likely to disappear over time, but for now you can count on it.

Eye-level shooting of video is not possible with a DSLR since video requires a live-view feed. Several Micro 4/3 camera will provide this using an optional EVF.

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Since the sensor is about ²⁄₃ the size of Nikon/Pentax/Sony APS-C sensor (³⁄₄ for Canon), it makes sense that the difference is less than a stop. (For the difference to be a whole stop, the difference would have to be roughly half/double.) –  mattdm Feb 3 '11 at 5:12
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Just a clarification: the size of a Micro 4:3 sensor is the same as a normal 4:3 sensor (what changes is the distance from the focusing elements to the sensor plane). Of course the 4:3 itself is a little bit smaller than an APS-C, but not much.

enter image description here

So do not expect worse sensor performance than in any Olympus or Panasonic DSLR.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_Four_Thirds_system

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Thirds_System

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Very interesting, thanks for sharing that - quite a good way to visualise the difference. Cheers. –  Ciaocibai Feb 3 '11 at 21:49
    
I just linked the image from Wikipedia ^_^ –  fortran Feb 4 '11 at 8:12
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Nobody mentioned the fact that micro four thirds cameras are very good for experimenting with old manual lenses.

The micro 4/3 system is mirrorless, and has a very short falange distance (distance from sensor to lens), that allows it to use most lenses on the market, with an adapter (and there are lots of types of adapters).

the slow focusing speed is not an issue with manual lenses ;)

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I think the scenario is exactly the opposite, you can use Micro 4:3 lenses in other mounts with an adapter (silly thing because the greater crop factor anyway), but not the other way around. That's precisely because they are closer to the sensor, and while it's quite easy to put them further away (with an extension tube), you cannot bring them closer (OK, maybe sawing the shell XD)? Of course you can still mount a lens designed for a more distant focusing plane, but it is very inconvenient to loose the ability to focus at infinity. –  fortran Feb 9 '11 at 10:55
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i think you have it the other way around.. –  JoséNunoFerreira Feb 9 '11 at 13:05
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Hmmm... It seems that I was extrapolating from my Pentax K in Nikon EF and Canon EOS mounts adapters knowledge, where the extra flange distance difference comes from the lens itself, not the camera body. And of course, if the lens body is the same length, the extra distance needed can be added with the adapter. You were right :-) –  fortran Feb 9 '11 at 13:49
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Micro 4/3rds has a slightly smaller sensor than crop DSLRs, has slower autofocus, is more likely to get dust in the sensor, and depending on the camera, might not have a see-through lens. This would make taking picture outdoors very difficult.

With help from Wikipedia

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No m4/3 camera has an optical viewfinder that sees through the lens. I think that is what you meant by 'see-through lens'. There are optional EVFs and optical tunnel finders for specific focal-lengths though. –  Itai Feb 3 '11 at 1:19
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The lack of TTL optical viewfinder is not what makes taking pictures outdoors difficult, it's just the lack of a viewfinder at all. But many u4/3 cameras do have a built-in or optional electronic viewfinder, which work fine in daylight. –  thomasrutter Mar 15 '11 at 1:09
    
About dust on the sensor: I've had much more issues with my Nikon D40 than my Olympus E-P2. Whether it is Olympus' dust removal system (my Nikon has no such thing) or the increased distance between infrared filter and sensor plane, dust gathers less and affects the image less on my Micro 4/3 camera. Granted I am comparing a 4 year old Nikon with a ~1 year old Olympus design - but nonetheless you can't say categorically that a Micro 4/3 is more susceptible to dust. –  thomasrutter Mar 15 '11 at 6:46
    
Micro 4/3 often have a piece of quartz glass on top of the sensor. The glass vibrates ultrasonically to remove dust. –  joeforker Apr 18 '13 at 16:47
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Generally speaking, the smaller sensor is its biggest disadvantage. The smaller the sensor, the higher the noise. The smaller the sensor, the larger minimum DoF.

There's nothing "holy" in DSLR (FF or APS-C) form factor either. In terms of sensor size, these types are just two points in the continuum from digital medium format cameras to cellphone cameras. However, there is an expected level of attributes for each camera size. For example, DSLR's have optical viewfinder which sees "through the lens". No u4/3 has an optical viewfinder that sees TTL.

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The lack of a mirror kills TTL and, thus, any optical viewfinders that will see what the camera sees. –  John Cavan Feb 3 '11 at 3:40
    
@John Cavan - That's right. Those that offer an optical viewfinder work in the "old" compact camera style, Dual Lens, where the viewfinder has its own objective lens. –  ysap Feb 3 '11 at 4:00
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Are there micro four-thirds with that configuration? I'm not aware of any, since that would seem to blow out the interchangeable lens concept, but since the style doesn't interest me, I haven't necessarily watched them closely. –  John Cavan Feb 3 '11 at 4:10
    
@John Cavan - you mean a configuration w/ a viewfinder? I think there are, or at least it is an accessory you can mount on the hot shoe. Like you, I am not really interested in this style, so I am not sure, and am speaking from memory, but I can be wrong. –  ysap Feb 3 '11 at 5:05
    
Olympus offers a hotshoe-mounted optical finder to match their 17mm f/2.8 pancake lens. See us.buyolympus.com/… –  mattdm Feb 3 '11 at 5:08
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Since this question was originally asked, the Micro Four-Thirds system has advanced and some of the earlier answers have become outdated. The latest generation of cameras has fast auto-focus although they still lag behind DSLRs for low-light and continuous tracking (eg birds in flight and sports) due to lack of phase-contrast autofocus. The lens selection is large although more fast zooms and long lenses would be welcome; see (incomplete) list at end of post.

The main technical differences from DSLRs are due to

  • sensor size differences
  • mirrorless differences (inc. electronic viewfinder)
  • other camera system differences

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The sensor size effect has been discussed in previous answers, although it should be noted that since fast lenses are easier to design for smaller sensors (see the f/0.95 lenses below) this counteracts the sensor size effects on IQ and DoF. Otherwise a smaller sensor generally means reduced image quality (ie signal-to-noise ratio) for a given exposure. However m43 images are fine for web/computer viewing and prints of typical size and even gallery-quality prints at low ISO. High-ISO quality is noticeably worse in comparison.

A smaller sensor also means increased depth of focus for a photo with the same angle of view, aperture and image size. Looking at portraits taken with the 75mm f/1.8 lens I find the depth of focus is shallow enough in practice but judge for yourself, look at photos on flickr.

The smaller m43 sensor means a smaller camera, smaller lenses and a system small enough to be pocketable or easy and light enough to carry in a small bag, but with reasonable image quality. This is the trade-off that some find attractive. I often carry a PEN camera with lens in a jacket pocket and a couple of other lenses in other pockets. A professional photographer may find lugging a DSLR system around all day causes back or wrist injuries.

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Mirrorless cameras allow more optimal designs for wide-angle lenses, resulting in cheaper, smaller or higher quality lenses (compare the Rokinon 7.5mm to a 15mm 135-format SLR lens for example). The lack of mirror means no mirror lag between pressing the shutter and taking the picture, and no vibration or noise from mirror slap. There is still shutter lag and vibration (until electronic shutters are perfected). The short flange distance of mirrorless cameras mean most legacy lenses can be used with an adaptor (with manual focusing). There is no problem with front- or back-focusing since autofocus uses the actual image sensor.

Electronic viewfinders introduce a slight lag to the image, although they allow overlay of useful information such as histograms and blinkies for over/underexposure, and other effects such as zooming for critical focus, can automatically adapt to changing light levels, and can provide a real WYSIWYG image including in-camera filters. Some m43 cameras only have optional EVFs. I tend to compose pictures using a tilted viewscreen at waist level rather than hold the camera up to my eye, but screens can be difficult to see in bright sunlight. Optical viewfinders provide a real-time high-resolution image and optical aids such as a split-screen focusing.

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There also tend to be significant differences between mirrorless and DSLR systems when there is no technical reason for this. Although traditional DSLR companies such as Nikon and Canon tend to have more cameras with "pro" features, they are quite conservative in design. If you want a tilting touchscreen and in-camera image stabilization for example they don't have that. Olympus has not officially released a "pro" camera for m43 yet, although they are promising to do so. Some professionals are finding the OM-D E-M5 has the features and quality they require and are switching to m43.

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Native lens list taken from http://www.ayton.id.au/wp02/?page_id=2255. Note many legacy lenses can also be used with cheap adapters.

Pan. 7-14mm f/4
Pan. 8mm f/3.5
Oly. 9-18mm f/4.0-5.6
Oly. 12mm f/2.0
Pan. 12mm f/12 (3D stereo)
Pan. 12-35mm f/2.8
Oly. 12-50mm f/3.5-6.3
Pan. 14mm f/2.5
Oly. 14-42mm f/3.5-5.6 
Oly. 14-150mm f/4-5.6 
Tamron 14-150mm f/3.5-5.8 
Olympus 15mm f/8 (MF lever)
Oly. 17mm f/1.8
Oly. 17mm f/2.8
Sigma 19mm f/2.8
Pan. 20mm f/1.7
Pan. 25mm f/1.4
Sigma 30mm f/2.8
Pan. 35-100mm f/2.8
Oly. 40-150mm f/4-5.6 
Pan. 45-150mm f/4-5.6
Pan. 45-200mm f/4-5.6
Pan. 45mm f/2.8 macro
Oly. 45mm f/1.8
Oly. 60mm f/2.8 macro weather-sealed 
Sigma 60mm f/2.8 
Oly. 75mm f/1.8 
Oly. 75-300mm f/4.8-6.7 
Pan. 100-300mm f/4-5.6

manual focus:
    Rokinon 7.5mm f/3.5
    SLR Magic Nokton 12mm f/1.6
    Cosina Voigtlander Nokton 17.5mm f/0.95
    Cosina Voigtlander Nokton 25mm f/0.95
    Cosina Voigtlander Nokton 42.5mm f/0.95
    MS-Optical Sonnetar 25mm f/1.1
    ShenyangZhongyi 35mm f/0.95
    Jackar 35mm f/1.8
    Zeiss Compact Prime CP.2 135mm/T2.1
    Tokina 300mm f/6.3 mirror lens (0.5x macro)

due soon:
    Schneider Kreuznach Super-Angulon 14mm f/2.0 due end of 2013
    Schneider Kreuznach Xenon 30mm f/1.4 due end of 2013
    Schneider Kreuznach Makro-Symmar 60mm f/2.4 due end of 2013

conversion lenses:
    Olympus MCON-P01 Macro Converter - designed for M. Zuiko 14-42mm MkII/R, 14-150mm, and 40-150mm lenses
    Olympus WCON-P01 Wide Angle Converter - converts M.Zuiko 14-42mm MkII kit lens into an 11mm ultrawide-angle lens
    Olympus FCON-P01 Fisheye Converter - converts M.Zuiko 14-42mm MkII kit lens into a fisheye lens.
    Panasonic DMW-GWC1 Wide Conversion Lens - converts 14mm to 11mm for use on 14mm f/2.5 and the LUMIX G X VARIO PZ 14-42mm
    Panasonic DMW-GTC1 Tele Conversion Lens - 2x zoom - converts 42mm to 84mm for use on the LUMIX G X VARIO PZ 14-42mm
    Panasonic DMW-GMC1 Macro Conversion Lens - for use on 14mm f/2.5 and the LUMIX G X VARIO PZ 14-42mm
    Panasonic DMW-GFC1 Fisheye Conversion Lens - for use on 14mm f/2.5 and the LUMIX G X VARIO PZ 14-42mm

tilt-shift lenses and adapters:
    B.I.G 15mm f/4.5 shift lens (based on the Voigtlander Heliar 15mm f/4.5)
    GoShotCamera 50mm f/2.0 tilt shift lens
    Fotodiox shift adapters – Canon FD, Minolta MD, Contarex
    Adriano Lolli tilt adapters – most 35mm camera lenses
    Flashpoint tilt adapter – Nikon lenses
    Lens Baby tilt transformer (pdf) - converts any Nikon lens into a tilt lens
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Kirk Tuck has a couple of nice writeups that talk about his experiences with the Olympus E-PL2, a well-regarded Micro Four Thirds camera. The brief summary is: he found the smallness and stealth of the camera quite compelling (e.g., it helped him to appear to be a "hapless tourist" rather than a serious photographer), and the usability and IQ good enough (when compared to DSLRs).

I found these very helpful in understanding the tradeoffs.

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Can you summarize here, for posterity? –  mattdm Mar 15 '11 at 0:43
    
E-PL2 is Olympus' most low-end micro four thirds model currently available. But it does have some impressive not-so-low-end features like remote flash triggering. –  thomasrutter Mar 15 '11 at 1:15
    
@matt, sure; will edit. –  Reid Mar 16 '11 at 15:20
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One other potential issue with a m4/3 camera, is that's as large a sensor as you are ever going to be able to use. With other DSLR systems you can potentially buy very nice primes that also work on larger sensor or even full frame cameras with the same mount.

If you someday decide you really need a full-frame camera, you may also just be able to sell the lenses and systems you have and start from scratch, but it's something to consider.

m4/3 cameras are more compact so that's a great benefit to consider, especially when traveling.

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How is this a drawback to a DSLR? If you buy DX format lenses in Nikon you will won't be able to use those lenses full-frame - same with Canon equivalents. Unless you are referring to the fact that full-frame cameras can crop to the APS-C size when attaching such a lens, which isn't really an advantage but does give a bit of an upgrade path. Olympus/Panasonic are happy with 4/3 sensors even at pro level though. –  thomasrutter Mar 15 '11 at 1:12
    
I'm just saying if you buy a camera with an m4/3 mount, you can't buy any lenses that will eventually also work on a full-frame version of the same camera (since by definition the 4/3 camera already has as large a sensor as can work with that smaller mount). –  Kendall Helmstetter Gelner Mar 15 '11 at 1:41
    
Yep. But Olympus/Panasonic chose not to go down the "full frame" route at all - if you thought that was important you'd go Nikon or Canon. I personally would advise to get the camera that suits you best today, rather than one you hope to grow into later. The second hand market (especially for lenses) is healthy and makes switching systems not too painful. –  thomasrutter Mar 15 '11 at 5:11
    
I strongly agree with the last point, it's not too hard to sell gear these days. I just wanted to present it as a possible issue to consider depending on where a person thinks they might go. –  Kendall Helmstetter Gelner Mar 15 '11 at 5:53
    
It's definitely a consideration. To some extent, choosing µFT is making a bet that the image quality of small sensors will catch up with that of larger sensors within your lifetime. If larger sensors stay better, or even pull ahead, then µFT will be stuck with lower image quality forever. But if small sensors catch up, then the advantages of larger formats evaporate, and you're left with all the upsides of µFT and no downside. The trend to date (based on my reading of DxOMark data) has been for the gap to narrow. I won't try to predict where it will go next! –  Tom Anderson Oct 12 '13 at 11:21
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I would say it is moderately meaningful, at least from a print perspective. The difference between APS-C and FF is around 1.5-1.6x, while the difference between 4/3rds and FF is 2.0x. The relative difference between APS-C and 4/3rds is about 1.25x (an absolute difference of around 0.4x). Not hugely significant, but significant enough to think about.

I think more important than the difference in crop factor would be the format. There are fewer native papers that fit the 1.33 aspect ratio of a four thirds sensor (8x10"/8.5x11", 11x14", and 17x22" come to mind, although they are not ideal matches), while there are quite a few papers that exactly or nearly meet the 1.5 aspect ratio of APS-C sensors (which have a 3:2, rather than a 4:3, aspect ratio), which includes 2x3", 4x6, 11x16/11x17, 13x19, 34x22/36x24, as well as all the A-series papers, which have a sqrt(2) ratio of 1.414. (Although I guess A-series papers are only slightly closer to 3:2 than 4:3.) You would have to ask yourself if you are ok either printing on papers that don't directly match your image sizes, and cropping the paper...or cropping the images so they match the papers you wish to print on. I myself print on 13x19" most of the time, although I also print on 11x16" and occasionally 8x10" (although it is more of an ideal paper for 4:3 size images).

Here is a demonstration of print margin, if you print a 4:3 image at the same resolution and minimal cropping as a 3:2 image:

enter image description here

I think a 3:2 ratio image, on papers between 1.41 and 1.54 aspect ratio, tend to fit nicer and have nicer margins without any cropping of the original image. A 4:3 ratio, on the other hand, doesn't fit quite as nicely, as it has more of a square shape. You can either shrink it more so the margins lengthwise down the page fit better, however you end up with pretty fat margins along the opposite edges of the page.

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One point that hasn't been mentioned, but is worth noting, is that from a practical viewpoint a smaller sensor gives increased depth of field.

In theory, that's not really true -- depth of field depends on the aperture of the lens and the reproduction ratio on the sensor. From a practical viewpoint, however, if you maintain the same framing (as closely as you can given a different aspect ratio) you'll either be using a shorter lens or shooting from farther away with the MFT. Either way, you end up with a smaller reproduction ratio on the sensor, which increases your depth of field.

This can be either an advantage or a disadvantage. If you're using a large aperture for the sake of selective focus, you'll typically need to open it up another 1 1/3-1 1/2 stop on MFT to get about the same depth of field as you would with the same framing on a full-frame (135 size) sensor. If you're starting with a fast aperture (e.g. f/1.4 or f/1.2) on a full-frame, you may not even be able to find a lens for MFT that maintains the same depth of field.

On the other hand, if you're using a large aperture primarily to work in low light, you may like the fact that you can open it up without the depth of field getting razor thin.

Of course, that also needs to be balanced against the fact that (as others have mentioned) a larger sensor will generally have lower noise, so on a larger camera you may be able to get about the same effect by increasing the ISO instead.

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The weight difference between Micro 4/3s and DSLRs in general is huge. Look at this comparison table: http://dslrpassion.com/component/content/article/60-equipment/154-dslr-camera-weight-comparison.html

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In general the pro DSLRs are heaviest, followed by APS-C DSLR and then micro 4/3. But there is a lot of overlap: Sony Alpha A230 (DSLR) at 490g, while the largest Micro 4/3, the Olympus E-5 is 800g. Other 4/3 cameras are similar weight to a Nikon D3000 or Canon 550D –  MikeW Feb 29 '12 at 4:25
    
@MikeW, the E-5 is a 4/3 camera, not a Micro 4/3. –  Reid May 7 '12 at 3:16
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Mirrorless as of the arrival of the Nikon 1 system, the V2 model can now out-perform top Nikon or canon "full frame" DSLRs in terms of:

  • in C-AF mode can shoot 15 frames per second individually focused in RAW files for 40 shot buffer depth.
  • can shoot at 30 or 60 fps in RAW file with focus & exposure locked at first frame, with 40 shot buffer.

This is by using a sensor with both phase detect and contrast detection capabilities. In high speed (above 15 fps) the camera uses a silent electronic shutter so is much quieter and avoids mirror slap of a DSLR.

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This is true and interesting, but doesn't really talk about micro four thirds cameras (which of course the Nikon 1 isn't). –  mattdm Apr 28 '13 at 13:46
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