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For example, if we have a film with ISO/ASA speed of 100, is it equivalent to setting ISO = 100 on DSLRs?

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possible duplicate of What is "ISO" on a digital camera? – mattdm Dec 11 '12 at 11:47

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Sort of... because ISO values for film don't even have a 1:1 correspondence. For example, Fujichrome Velvia 50 is rated at ISO 50, but if you set your camera on 50, you will generally underexpose. Most film photographers I knew set ISO 40 instead. However Kodak E-100 typically did expose properly at ISO 100.

A digital camera set at ISO 100 will typically respond "as if" it were film that responded with a proper exposure at ISO 100.

Film photographers grew to understand the characteristics of the particular film they were using and adjusted accordingly. Digital photographers don't typically have that problem.

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I'm kind of confused here, I understand that film photographers have to calibrate the ISO first by taking test shots at different ISO/ASA values till they get proper exposure (and the used ISO may not be the same as the one indicated on the film cassette itself). What I understand is that even in film, different films don't have 1 to 1 correspondence ? – akram May 15 '12 at 19:24
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Yup, even films with the same ISO on the canister respond differently. I can understand it in an analog (chemical) process, but it's pretty hard to understand from a controlled digital device for which established test targets exist. I guess it's the nature of the beast that color distribution affects sensitivity and that affects the perceived "correct" exposure. – Steve Ross May 15 '12 at 19:29
That is precisely what he is saying, Akram. Film ISO is something of a fuzzy beast anyway... a lot of photographers choose to under- or (more commonly) over-expose negative films in particular by one third of a stop or half a stop. In effect, treating the film as though it was 160 ISO or 150 ISO instead of the 200 ISO it says on the box. Anyway - I remember that earlier Canon DSLRs used to be a bit "faster" than the nominal ISO they was set to. Ie, If you set it to 100 ISO it was in reality something like 130. This was back ca when the EOS 10D, 20D were current models. – Staale S May 15 '12 at 19:29
so there isn't 1:1 correspondence between DSLRs and Film because film ISO/ASA values aren't consistent with each other, that's funny :) – akram May 15 '12 at 19:36
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@Akram - ISOs are very consistent (± 1/6 stops from the rated vaue); they're just measuring something different from what most people assume they're measuring. What isn't consistent from film to film is the contrast curve, and the ISO/ASA rating really only looks at two points on the curve. We photographers tend to be a little more interested in the subjective overall response, and are willing to either play with the curve by altering exposure and development (as in the Zone System), or sacrifice one part of the curve for another (as in overexposing Velvia or underexposing Kodachrome). – Stan Rogers May 15 '12 at 21:40
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Recently I've looked into this. For decades I worked as a professional, outdoors and indoors, using studio flash equipment, as well as a lot of available light photography. Within the 120 roll film the sheet had a guide setting, which was actually highly accurate. Example 125 ASA bright sunlight said 1/125 combined with f/11 or f/16. It didn't matter where you were, in Egypt or Arizona. Frankly, I hardly used a light meter, except for in very difficult situations. If I would set a present DSLR on the same settings, the result will be about 1 to 2 stops under exposure, depending on which DSLR.

So in my opinion, the answer is are they equivalent; No!

Another thing about the so-called high tech meter systems within the DSLR; none of these work. In fact the most approachable right method of measuring is to measure the direct light, which should always give you Neutral Density. The given measurement within any camera often misguides. Because of the simple reason, as soon as there's a person in front of the camera with a white shirt is taking 50% of the screen, you will have to correct this. Simply said; the build in TTL is an aid device, but far from perfect.

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Actually, no. The whole idea of calling it "ISOxxx" in digital cameras is fundamentally flawed as the ISO standard pertains exclusively to photographic film.
The proper term for digital cameras is EI, or Exposure Index, which is an attempt to match digital sensor photo sensitivity to ISO sensitivities for film base. As stated in other answers, there is a spread for film base sensitivities, this being replicated in there being a spread in sensor sensitivities as well (and potentially a greater spread) as different sensor makers use different tables.

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ISO 12232:2006 specifies the method for assigning and reporting ISO speed ratings, ISO speed latitude ratings, standard output sensitivity values, and recommended exposure index values, for digital still cameras. ISO 12232:2006 is applicable to both monochrome and colour digital still cameras. – coneslayer May 16 '12 at 19:49
it is however not the ISO standard meant when listing sensitivities, which is implied to be the same one used for film. – jwenting May 21 '12 at 8:54
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In theory, yes. ISO is short for the ISO 5800:1987 standard which defines what sensitivity means and how it is measured. That standard is intended for [negative] film but digital cameras makers have been using it to measure sensitivity too. There are however room for interpretation when you consider things like RAW conversion, color-spaces, etc, there are not always exact matches.

As @Zak said, some sites measure this and you can actually get a very price chart for each RAW-capable camera at DxOMark. They only measure RAW output to avoid artifacts introduced by JPEG conversion. For example, for the Canon 5D Mark III (Select the Measurement then the ISO Sensitivity tab to see the chart), ISO 100 to 102400 are extremely close to the official measure. ISO 50 which is an expanded sensitivity is not.

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They try :) but is different in each camera. Sometimes it is close but it can be different.

Do you know the site Dpreview? Every time they review camera they say correspondence between real ISO and camera ISO. Example: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/olympusem5/16 says this one slower by 1/3 EV.

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