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I have a Nikon D5100. When shooting indoor photos using the built in flash, the auto ISO changes to 1600 or so.

Doesn't the flash produce enough light so that the ISO would stay at 100 or so?


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what's your aperture and shutter speed? – akram Apr 25 '12 at 18:26
This is probably the same essential question as this earlier one, although obviously several details vary. – mattdm Apr 25 '12 at 18:55
The on-camera flash is not very powerful, and it was that dark that at full power of the flash, it still cannot emit enough light to keep the ISO at 100. At ISO 100, a small dim room could easily requires a powerful external flash unit to lit. – Gapton Apr 26 '12 at 3:18

The ISO used will depend upon flash power, how bright/dark the scene is, the subject distance, and what settings the camera and flash are using. That is, it's possible that no, ISO 100 can't be used because the flash doesn't provide enough light.

The D5100 built-in flash has a guide number of 39 (measured in feet) at ISO 100. By the math, GN39 / 10 feet (subject distance) = f3.9 at ISO 100, so there should be just enough power to light the subject using the flash at nearly full power. But, flash power isn't the only decision to be made when taking the photo.

Note that at 18mm and f3.5, the depth of field is from roughly 6ft to 28.5 ft. That is, the scene is rendered in-focus from 6 ft to 28.5 ft. With the camera set to full auto, it could well be trying to get everything lit out to 28.5 ft. The math: GN39 / 28.5 ft = f1.39 at ISO 100 -- which I'm sure your lens can't do. It's almost 3 stops out to f3.5, which means the minimum ISO you can probably use is ISO 800. It's only 1/2-stop to the ISO 1250 your camera used, which could certainly be due to how the scene was metered and what your camera thought should be done.

Back to the initial question: the flash does have just enough power to light the subject as you've described it. The trick is that you can't let the camera decide how to do it: you need to make the decisions. In full auto the camera is just trying to get a technically-correct photo; it has no idea what sort of photo you envision. Switch to the manual or aperture priority modes and set the ISO to 100, the aperture to 3.5, and the shutter to 1/60 and shoot, and I bet you'll see that the subject is lit, and the rest of the scene gets much darker than in the automatic mode. You've got the photo, but you can also raise the ISO or lower the shutter speed to better light the rest of the scene -- which is effectively what the camera was doing in full auto mode to take the photo.

Indoors, I often shoot at ISO 800-1600 with flash specifically to get the rest of the room bright enough to make out some detail. I also use an external flash (Nikon SB-900) which has much more power than the built in flash. In the case of your situation, f3.9 is the extreme end of aperture you can use at ISO 100 and 18mm focal length; the external flash will let me shoot at f5.6 or f8 at ISO 100 and 18mm, for example.

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Thanks so much!! – Jerry Apr 25 '12 at 18:48

When in Shutter Priority/Aperture Priority/Manual

You can set the ISO to a lower setting via the shooting menu

While in shooting mode press the minus zoom and change the iso in there.

The issue with auto iso is, that the DSLR will choose a high iso to ensure the shot is correctly exposed - you could try adjusting exposure compensation to see if that changes the iso the button looks like a +/-

Auto-iso is not an exact science and your leaving a lot of decisions up to the camera.

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By playing around with my D5100, I found that if you shoot in PROGRAM (P) Mode, not AUTO mode, and pop the flash up, it will (under normal conditions) leave your ISO where you set it (like, say, 200). It sets the exposure time at 1/60 and the aperture at f5.3. You have to set the white balance manually, though. I actually find the color balance is most accurate if I use "shadow of a house" color balance mode. After you focus and when you push the shutter button, it shines a beam of light first before actually taking the picture. It might use this to determine how long to flash the flash (this is usually less than 1/60 sec I believe, but I can't verify that). This way I get a nicely exposed picture with low grain noise. Weird how, in AUTO mode, on the same scene, it selects just about the same 1/60 (nominal) exposure and f4.8, but gives me a grainy image at ISO 1600. Here I do not have to (or even GET to) reset the white balance (and I don't like the color as well), and it seems not to send that beam of light first either. Seems it can only be choosing to fire the flash at a lower power, or for a shorter time, in AUTO mode. Overall AUTO mode seems like a good thing to avoid if possible.

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Of course it does, but not if you are shooting at F22 and/or if "indoors" is a sports arena.

More details, please. What settings are you using? What is the distance to the subject? Is the subject wearing all black with a black background? etc.???

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the location is inside our house. I've tried several camera settings, and they all gave similar results. The distance to the subject (person) is about 10 feet. – Jerry Apr 25 '12 at 17:50
using 'fully auto' mode, it used f3.5, shutter 60, iso 1250, focal length 18mm – Jerry Apr 25 '12 at 17:52
any advice to bring to ISO down? – Jerry Apr 25 '12 at 17:53
I suggest using aperture priority or manual as a problem isolation approach. My camera generally shoots at about ISO 400 when on full auth. Of course, the built in flash is ugly, which is why you should go to to learn about off camera flash – Pat Farrell Apr 25 '12 at 18:21

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