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What is the rule to convert the 'mm' notation to the 'optical zoom' notation? I searched a bit and found this one:

optical zoom = maximum focal length / minimum focal length

For example a 18-55mm lens would have a 3x optical zoom, and a 18-200mm lens would have a 11x optical zoom. Is that right?

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Related: What does 'how much zoom' mean? –  mattdm Jul 3 '11 at 22:44
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The "mm notation" is the focal length. Note that when computing the zoom ratio (e.g. 3x, 5x) the units cancel so you can quote the focal length in inches, meters, AU and it won't influence the calculation. –  Matt Grum Jul 3 '11 at 22:56
    
You are right. 55/18 = 3, 200/18 = 11. That's it :-) –  Darksair Nov 26 '11 at 16:20
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@MattGrum - I hope I will live to see an AU lens in my time... ;-) –  ysap Nov 30 '11 at 14:30
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@ysap: I have a 2.674 × 10⁻¹³ AU lens. It's pretty nice. (Just 1× zoom, though.) –  mattdm Jan 8 '13 at 1:31

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The "times zoom" notation is simply the big number divided by the small one, so the examples you give are correct. "3x zoom" simply means the longest focal length is three times the shortest.

This number really isn't very useful, though. On point and shoot cameras, it became popular because the starting focal length was generally about the same across all models — a wide-normal field of view. That makes the times-zoom a reasonable indicator of how far one can zoom in to get a closer view of a distant subject. But with interchangeable lenses, a similar widest angle is rarely the case, so it's not really so useful on its own. There is no standard "base" number that the "×" starts from; you go from whatever the widest focal length on that particular lens happens to be. An 18-55mm and a 70-200mm are both about "3x zoom", but a very different range.

On the other hand, the zoom ratio does give you an idea of how much focal length flexibility the lens has, and usually higher numbers are a clue that there will be more compromise on image quality (and/or price, size, and weight).

Photography is a field with a lot of jargon and a lot of numbers to learn. That can be intimidating to would-be photographers who want to concentrate on images, not "tech stuff". A simple number, without any metric-system units, is far less intimidating than needing to learn all about focal length and angle of view, so I don't think the marketers are all wrong to focus on this number for basic cameras.

For interchangeable lens cameras, like digital SLRs or mirrorless compact system cameras, in some ways the complexity of using focal lengths is a selling point. Intermediate and advanced users may prefer to be given the straightforward facts instead of having to decode more-removed numbers like times-zoom. In some ways, giving the angle of view instead of focal length might be preferable, but that hasn't really caught on — probably because it's really not very hard to get a sense for what different focal lengths mean for field of view on your own camera, once you get over the initial learning bump.

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+1 Thx for editing and answering (comprehensively) my question ;) –  dialex Jul 3 '11 at 23:09
    
yay for my 0x zoom 35mm f/2.0 Nikkor :) –  jwenting Jul 5 '11 at 6:27
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@jwenting Technically that would be a 1x zoom. –  Evan Krall Nov 27 '11 at 5:38
    
@EvanKrall depends on your definition of the term. It doesn't zoom at all, 1x would to me indicate it has a range of y to 2 time y mm focal length (1 times more than the base) :) –  jwenting Nov 28 '11 at 6:54
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@jwenting That'd make the 18-55 a 2x zoom and the 18-200 a 10x zoom. It doesn't fit the convention. –  Evan Krall Nov 29 '11 at 7:40

That's exactly what it means. The "zoom power" of a lens has no meaning except as the relationship between the longest and shortest focal length of the lens. For instance, even on a "bridge" or "ultrazoom" camera, one camera being marketed as a 30X zoom and another as a 28X zoom doesn't tell you whether the longest field of view is longer or the widest is wider, just that the lens has a greater range between the two.

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Yes you are correct both are 3x lenses. I think you you may be confused with the terminology from the compact camera world. When you are talking about compact most cameras have nearly identical widest focal length. This may be the cause of your confusion. For example this page from dpreview from lists canon compact and their zoom ratios. You can see that Canon PowerShot ELPH 320 HS (IXUS 240 HS) and Canon PowerShot A2300 are both listed as 5x cameras but the focal length of the earlier model is 24 – 120 mm whereas the later is 28 – 140 mm.

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There is also another thing to consider. As you zoom in with linearly in millimetres, the actual field of view change is not linear. Zooming 2mm in when at 17mm will result in a much larger change in the field of view than zooming 2mm further at 200mm.

It will depend on how you define the "zoom factor". Is it field of view or focal length?

Here is the actual field of view graph for 1mm increments from 15mm to 200mm on a 35mm SLR. This was generated at http://www.howardedin.com/articles/fov.html and the diagonal was made simply with the hypotenuse algorithm h²=x²+y². The graph itself shows in 5mm increments.

enter image description here

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Just focal length, I'm only considering the magnification of the image. –  dialex Jul 3 '11 at 23:03
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Actually, I think it is linear, isn't it? In the first case, it'll be a 2/17=11.8% change, and in the second, it's 2/200=1%. That's because zooming is mathematically like cropping, so each doubling of focal length is halving dimensional field of view in a very straightforward way. –  mattdm Jul 3 '11 at 23:07
    
slaps forehead Why didn't I even think of that... –  Nick Bedford Jul 3 '11 at 23:28
    
Nick Bedford, @mattdm - I'd stress that the actoal FoV change is indeed nonlinear. For relatively long focal lengths, the angles are small and the change is approximately linear. However, as you get to the wider side, the angles become large and the mapping from focal length to angle of view is nonlinear. That said, I never saw a definition of zoom range w.r.t change in FoV. –  ysap Jul 4 '11 at 16:28
    
Updated with a graph showing the field of view. –  Nick Bedford Jul 4 '11 at 22:27

You have already gotten direct answers to your question, so I'll comment a bit on this "X factor" as you call it. Basically it is a measure of the "zoominess" of the lens. A 1x lens is no zoom at all, just a fixed (also called "primary") lens. The larger the X number, the more the lens can make a difference by zooming.

Why do you care? Mostly you don't. The range of focal lengths the lens can cover is more relevant to how you are going to use it. A 35-70mm zoom would be used in very different situations than a 150-300mm zoom, although both are "2x".

What the X number does tell you is a rough measure of how much compromise was made in the lens design. Everything is a tradeoff, and zoomability is not free, both in $ to allow for the zooming and in optical quality. All other things being roughly equal, a 2x zoom will have better optical quality than a 8x zoom. Of course other things are rarely equal. There are things lens designers can do to get better optical quality in zoom lenses, but those cost money, may lose light, cause more internal reflections, limit the aperture range, etc. These can be mitigated to some extent by throwing money at the problem, but eventually you hit other limits due to physics or the available construction techniques.

The main message is that while high range zooms are nice to use, they have other drawbacks. You have to consider how much the flexibility and adaptability of a zoom is worth it to you in various situations. Just blindly going for a high-X zoom because it will solve all your problems ignores a lot of the issues.

I just re-read this and realize that it may sound somewhat against zoom lenses. That is not the intent at all. They have their place, as do fixed lenses. The lens I probably use more than any other is a zoom, but I also own a number of fixed lenses, in fact more fixed lenses than zooms. The point is to be aware of the tradeoffs and chose the right tool for the situation accordingly.

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You can make it stronger, the 2x and 3x zooms are nearly always much higher image quality and often build quality than the 8x and 10x zooms from the same brand. The classic zoom in both the Canon and Nikon lines is the 70-200, just a bit under 3x. Nearly all 8x and 10x zooms are consumer-level products. They are designed to a price, with image quality a lesser design criteria. –  Pat Farrell Sep 10 '12 at 18:11

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