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I have a Canon 7D and often take my camera on the road while traveling. In the past I've taken my Sigma 17-70 f/2.8-4 and my Canon 70-300 f/4-5.6, which means that I must switch out lenses quite a bit, depending on what I'm shooting. I get a much better overall image with the 70-300, but the 17-70 gets the big picture. Should I invest in a third lens for better travel portraits, close-up lenses to save space, or just a better lens overall (such as the Canon 24-105 f/4L)? I do love having low f stops for great focus and blur, but I also like having options, macro equipment, and reach. Perhaps there's no easy solution, but what would you do to travel relatively lightly in such a situation? Thanks!

Update (11/27/11): After many frustrations on past trips, I need to prioritize once more for a big trip, and your opinion could help!

I have a Canon 7D. I'll be taking:

A Canon 70-300 A Canon 50mm f/1.4 A wide angle--TBD

What wide angle should I purchase? I'll be putting it through heavy use (bumpy travel, dirt surroundings, 3rd world country environments, etc.), but don't have the money (or weight allowance) for an L-series lens. Currently I'm considering something such as the 15-85, though the 3.5 will be a bit of a challenge since I'll be shooting at night, too. What ONE lens would you recommend for this trip (as well as future use)? I'm absolutely open to used lenses or non-Canon lenses if there's a reliable source.

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Hello c3peat, and welcome to PhotoSE. I've sat here fore a few minutes trying to answer your question, but in all honesty, all I can come up with is basically the same analysis you have already done for yourself. You seem to have a pretty good understanding of what your lenses are capable of, what additional options you could buy, and what you want out of the whole deal. Once you reach that point, the answer is fundamentally a personal one, and you have to simply make a decision. We'd love to help, but you already know pretty much everything you can, and we can't make the decision for you. –  jrista Jun 16 '11 at 0:30
    
Yeah, I agree with jrista. What kind of travel photography you want to do, the inconvenience you are willing to put up with, the amount of money you want to spend, these are all personal decisions. In fact, they may even differ by trip. That said, you may find the discussion here to be useful: photo.stackexchange.com/questions/11940/… –  rm999 Jun 16 '11 at 0:47
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I'd not want to be limited to just the 24-105 f/4L on a 7D, it's not wide enough for my usual travel scenarios (but I do like my architecture/landscapes and always take a 10-22 because of that). –  drfrogsplat Jun 16 '11 at 1:23
    
@drfrogsplat - I agree, for travel the 10-22 is almost a necessity on the 7D. –  dpollitt Jun 16 '11 at 1:38
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Your "Update" is actually a new question (not covered by current title), and should be posted as such to avoid confusion between answers for the old and new one. –  Imre Nov 28 '11 at 9:33

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I was recently out in the field with only the Canon 70-200 f2.8 with the 1.4x extender. I had about a half mile hike to get to where I wanted and I didn't want to bring my wide (and heavy) L-glass. (Did I mention I was hiking before sunrise?)

Anyway, of course the shooting plans changed when I got on site and I needed wider glass. I didn't have caps with me to take off the extender and I didn't want to since the scene was changing so fast.

So, what to do? I stitched together 4 images and Photomerged them in Photoshop. Now, I won't say this is a perfect substitute, but hey, it got the job done for me.

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BTW, the original is 6800x5400 pixels.

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"When you can't be with the 1 you love, love the 1 you're with." Sometimes, when travelling with my 30D, I elect to go out from my hotel each day with a different lens- a 17-70 one day, a 50mm prime the next or a 100mm prime, sometimes the 18-200. I aim to enjoy each and every experience, and shot.

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True, you are taking pictures because you want to capture a journey. You are not travelling for photography and for that I use Tamron 18-270 all in one lens. Picture quality ise really nice and I can use this lens for almost all type of pictures.

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You should remember that you are taking travel pics because you are travelling, not travelling because you want to take pictures. Any sort of fatigue will be evident in your pictures so you absolutely have to travel light, so just give up the idea of travelling with everything. Personally I don't prefer the image quality of super zooms (18-xxx lenses). What lenses you choose depends on the place you are visiting:

  • If you are visiting a place like Paris or Washington DC with a lot of architectural beauty, carry a wide lens. I rented out a Tokina 11-17mm for this (other choices exist too).
  • If you are visiting a scenic place like the alps etc.. carry a longer zoom e.g. 70-200
  • If you want to capture the city and the feel of it (like that of NY or SF), 17-50mm works great (but you might prefer a different focal length for this).
  • If you are just going to some random town and just expect to take portraits of the people there, carry a prime (50mm FTW).

Depending on the place you go to, pick the lens best suited for the place and one lens that you use as a walk-around lens. These should be good enough. You could also lookup pictures taken around the area you are visiting on flickr maps, decide what kind of shots you want and take the lens that'll help you get the shots.

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If you're worried about the sharpness of photos, or other issues with image quality, then you won't want to get an all-in-one, and the only such options only go down to 18mm anyway. So that option can probably be ruled out if its the extremes that you really want to or really enjoy capturing.

I found myself switching lenses a lot travelling recently, mostly because I was enjoying using the really wide angle of my 10-22mm and the longest lengths of my telephoto zoom. Even though I used a 17-55 a lot more than either, I had more fun with the extremes. So if you're like me in that regard, then it might be worth considering a second body (one for each lens) rather than one fewer lens. This is obviously not a cheap route, and may make carrying your cameras more/less awkward, but definitely worth considering, if only briefly (:

For what its worth, I've not convinced myself its worth doing (mostly due to cost), but I'm always reminded of a photojournalists stories I read a while back (forgotten who exactly), who for many years had two 1D bodies, one with a 16-35, the other with a 70-200, and they pretty much stayed on there for years on end (I think he had a 50mm f/1.4 that would very occasionally come out of the bag). Where you or I would have switched to a mid-range zoom or prime, he'd take a few steps forward/back (whichever was more feasible) and reach to the left/right shoulder where the appropriate camera/lens combo was resting.

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With your current two lenses, you have to switch to go either side of 70mm, which to me seems quite a good switching point. But if you find you're switching lenses too much, then perhaps you'd be better off (as far as reducing switching goes) getting another lens rather than one less.

For example, if you added a Sigma 50-150 f/2.8 to your kit, you'd have:

  • 17-70
  • 50-150
  • 70-300

now with quite a bit of overlap in each case so you are perhaps switching less often.

Some other good options to cover the switching range would be:

  • Canon EF 24-105 IS USM L
  • Canon EF-S 18-135mm IS
  • Canon EF-S 18-200mm IS
  • Canon EF-S 55-250mm IS (I think there's a version 2 announced?)

Of course you're then carrying some extra weight, but it could give you some hysteresis in your switching, which will mean less back-and-forth between lenses.

That said, if you're mostly using the extremes (17-24mm and 200-300mm) then this won't help at all!

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It might be helpful to think about "traveling lightly" vs. "minimizing lens switching" separately, even though they seem to be one in the same goal. As jrista pointed out, there's at least one lens out there that covers a really nice focal range with "L" quality, but it's hardly a lightweight option. Personally, I think that by the time you load up a 7D with any sort of zoom lens, plus a handful of extra batteries, cards, and so on, you're really pushing past "lightweight". In fact, if you were to grab that 28-300 lens, I'd bet you'd be close enough in weight to the two lenses you've got now that you wouldn't be gaining much in terms of weight or space. If your real goal is to minimize lens switches, then this might very well be the right approach for you.

On the other hand, if you're really trying to save weight, I'm not sure there's an all-in-one lens that saves space and weight and offers quality worthy of a 7D. Maybe plan-B is to rent a 4/3 camera or something. When I bought my DSLR, I hung on to my old superzoom P&S for exactly this sort of dilemma. I don't plan on leaving the DSLR home until I get up to at least a four or five-day backpacking trip, but at that point, I think I'll be pretty happy to leave the weight behind.

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I think the light, and lens switching problems together is doable. When you throw in L quality, no way! The three just aren't going to come together into one lens. You are onto something here D. Maybe a smaller camera for truly lightweight use. –  dpollitt Jun 16 '11 at 2:44
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It's worth a thought. I just know that the difference in weight & size between my 40D and my old FZ28 are pretty staggering -- very noticeable when traveling. One of the new smaller-format EVIL cameras might split the difference nicely. –  D. Lambert Jun 16 '11 at 5:04

I'm going to give an alternative answer.

Instead of taking everything, or a lens designed to everything, decide on one lens to take on a given trip, and try to see what you can do with that.

Sure, you'll miss things, but, there's a lot of world out there, and a lot of missed shots. Focus on what you can get with that lens, and if you have an idea for something that you can't make work with the equipment you have with you, maybe make that the focus for the next trip.

There's several benefits to this approach:

  • You're traveling lighter, which may make it easier to actually get some of those shots.
  • You don't have to worry so much about what gear to use in a certain situation, and so you can concentrate on the photograph.
  • As you use a certain lens constantly over a period of time, you can understand its strengths and flaws, and learn to visualize what it will produce without even putting the camera to your eye. This doesn't happen as easily when you're moving between lenses (and for the same reason is stronger with primes than zooms).
  • You can start with what you have, and feel what you're missing.
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If you were to choose a prime for this exercise, what would you choose @mattdm? –  dpollitt Jun 16 '11 at 1:05
    
Well, right now, I'd take my DA Limited 15mm, because it's brand new and I'm still learning it. But in general, I'd probably start with a normal-range prime (30mm or so on a Canon 7D). Very versatile and useful in a lot of situations. A wider 35mm-equivalent would also be useful. If I were going somewhere I've been many times before, maybe a telephoto, concentrating on details rather than the broader scope. –  mattdm Jun 16 '11 at 1:08
    
I used to travel exclusively with my 35mm f2 canon lens (cropped sensor), and while it took great quality photos I missed way too many pictures. Usually i wanted something wider, but sometimes I'd want something more tele. I think for traveling zoom lenses are ideal. –  rm999 Jun 16 '11 at 1:15

If your price isn't as unlimited as the Canon EF 28-300mm f/3.5-5.6 L IS USM lens that jrista pointed out, you might want to look at the Canon EF-S 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6 IS Lens. It only weighs one third of the weight of the giant beast, and still gives a huge range. This lens is designed for the APS-C sensor that your 7D has. Just yesterday Canon Europe actually announced a 2nd version of this lens, so if you are thinking about buying one you might want to hold out for that version.

The right answer is going to depend heavily on how you like to travel. If you are traveling out of your car and don't mind the weight, then extra lenses for different purposes would be the way to go. If you want a light kit that does it all with a single lens, keeps you mobile and ready for the action, an all in one solution like one of the lenses above might be the best.

You said you want to travel relatively lightly, so I would consider something like the 18-200mm lens, with maybe a single prime lens either in the 35,50,85, or 135mm range. This will give you a light, small, fast(large aperture)lens to blur the background and shoot in low light situations that the 18-200mm lens will not perform as well.

Best case scenario in my opinion while considering price/performance/weight/and quality:

or

I asked a similar question here a few weeks ago, limiting the question to 1-3 lenses, while giving quality the highest value of importance. Price was not a factor in my question at all. You can see that question and its answers here.

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Just out of curiosity, how is the quality of the 18-200mm? I know Canon's gold-band lenses tend to offer professional-grade quality in a cheaper lens body/fewer features. I've owned a couple silver-band Canon lenses in the past, and none of them really offered much in the way of optical quality...I have not used the 18-200 though, so I'm curious how its optical quality might stack up to, say, the 24-105. –  jrista Jun 16 '11 at 1:51
    
dpollitt - I saw your similar question and do appreciate your answers. Our difference is that a.) I'm often backpacking around, so bulk is probably more of an issue than just plain weight, and b.) I'm absolutely into portraits, fast-moving wildlife (walks in the forest/jungle, for example), and nature--NOT architecture or things that tend to sit still. I did learn from several answers for your question, but thought ours were different enough to warrant my own. Your solution of an 18-200 plus the prime could be a very good one--and as jrista asked, how is the quality of that? –  c3peat Jun 16 '11 at 2:21
    
I'm also quite unhappy with my Sigma 17-70, so a new wide-angle or wide-telephoto isn't out of the question. And primes...well, you can't beat the picture quality! –  c3peat Jun 16 '11 at 2:22
    
It is quite excellent in fact. The II version of the lens adds a UD element which will even further enhance the quality of the images. Combine that with the spectra coatings, a circular diaphram, and 4 stop image stabilization and you can quickly see why this is a great option. The image quality is actually very nice for a lens in this range. It isn't going to blow away any "L" series lens, but even wide open much of the frame is sharp and has good contrast. –  dpollitt Jun 16 '11 at 2:34
    
The only real downside to this lens in my opinion is the lack of an Ultra-sonic-motor(USM). To some this is a show-stopper. It uses a standard micro motor for autofocus, and will be slightly audible when doing so. So, in essence, this is slightly slow to focus, but accuracy should be on par with any USM lens on the 7D. You mentioned fast moving wildlife, and for that, this lens will not be the best option. Removing that constraint, it will likely be a great option for almost all other general travel work. –  dpollitt Jun 16 '11 at 2:36

You have performed a pretty thorough analysis of your predicament, and after sitting here for a while, an analysis is all I can really come up with myself. It is a tough predicament, wanting to have your cake, and eat it too. I have ONE recommendation to offer, that may help, or may not, and really isn't an ideal solution...but at least it is a one-lens solution. Its an expensive solution, and I can't say whether it is a viable option for you.

I would look into the Canon EF 28-300mm f/3.5-5.6 L IS USM lens. This lens was essentially designed to solve the particular problem you currently face. Its an expensive solution, but its a quality solution, as the lens is top-shelf. Being an L-series lens it uses the best glass available, and brings all the luxury bells and whistles to the table, including ring-type USM, image stabilization, and a zoom range to die for. The lens is heavy at nearly 60 ounces, but it would be the only lens you need to cover just about everything you can imagine outside of those ultra-wide angle scenes.

There are some alternatives from third-party vendors, such as Sigma's 50-500 f/5-6.3 EX DG HSM lens, that may also fill the role of "one lens to rule them all", and at a better price point. I think you lose out on the wide angle in most cases, and gain on the long end, which might not be ideal for travel. Again, not really a perfect solution...as you still have to lug around a fair amount of weight...but you don't have to carry multiple lenses or bother with changing lenses while out and about. You might take on a few extra orders of magnitude of "nerdy tourist" as well...however there are always trade-offs to be made. ;)

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I can't even imagine carrying a lens around that is that heavy for travel. Maybe it is because I move so quick because I am young, but that thing is a BEAST. It is the only one lens solution for full frame that is that quality that I am aware of though. Might be too tight for a 7D though. –  dpollitt Jun 16 '11 at 0:49
    
The canon lens is not that large...sigma's is a bit larger in terms of bulk, and there are certainly lenses a LOT larger than the 28-300. It does have heft, though, and it is a fair amount of weight to it. I've carried the 100-400mm around on long hikes before. Its a little lighter in terms of weight, but a tad larger in terms of bulk. Having some kind of holster for it makes it a LOT easier to deal with, as hanging a camera with one of those lenses around your neck can get annoying after a while. –  jrista Jun 16 '11 at 0:53
    
The 28-300 is 59oz, and I know when I carry around the 70-200mm f/2.8 IS at 52oz, my wrist starts to hurt just from holding the lens up. If I had to hike with this or get around town, it would be limiting for me. Obviously the lens is specifically designed as a one lens solution for travel, so it works for some people. But the question was asking specifically about "relatively light" lenses, which the 28-135 certainly is not! –  dpollitt Jun 16 '11 at 1:04
    
@dpollitt: Well, I guess I took the word "relatively" to mean "relatively". The combined weight of a 17-70, 70-300, plus a lens for travel portraits, and a backpack of some kind to carry all that gear around is at least as heavy, if not more heavy, than just a camera and a single heavy lens...not to mention more of a hassle. –  jrista Jun 16 '11 at 1:16
    
It makes sense. As compared to a full kit of lenses, yes the 28-300 would be similar or even less in weight. I still think it is a very, very heavy lens. I am traveling for 2 weeks soon, and counted out the 28-300 for that exact reason. It is a personal preference for sure. –  dpollitt Jun 16 '11 at 1:35

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